Oblivion - Page 17

Cainehill · #**161** April 21st, 2006, 12:28 AM

Must say - one of the things that I'm hating _most_ about Oblivion is the screwed up interface. Seems that even the UI mods can't give a sane user interface where you could press something like 'M' for map, 'I' for inventory, etc.

Agrajag · #**162** April 21st, 2006, 04:23 AM

There is F1 for stats, F2 for inventory, F3 for spells and F4 for maps.
If it bothers you that much, just download AutoHotKey and script M to simulate pressing F4, I to simulate pressing F2 etc. (although I agree the interface is quite screwed up, and that you shouldn't have to do these work-arounds)

OG_Gleep · #**163** April 21st, 2006, 05:17 AM

DominionsFan, why wouldn't you think that is piracy? I never read the "do you accept these terms" screens, but its pretty obvious that what they are saying is "this game is only ment for you, don't share it dillhole".

But ya we got screwed thanks to the pc/console development. I don't know why it would be so hard to design the entire game then split off and do sperate interfaces.

Alneyan · #**164** April 21st, 2006, 05:57 AM

You should start reading EULAs sometime; it can be pretty fun, and there are often clauses that you might find surprising. For example, unless I'm grossly misremembering, there should be something interesting in the Oblivion EULA about mods and their ownership.

I still have a fond memory of Freespace 2 and its "You may make copies of the Software for your personal noncommercial use and to give to friends and acquaintances on a no cost noncommercial basis" clause (in the in-game EULA). Don't worry, most EULAs don't give you this freedom.

DominionsFan · #**165** April 21st, 2006, 06:09 AM

I read it now....I never thought that theres some **** like this in the EULA. I only gave it out for a try to a trusted friend, because there was no demo for the game, so he could try it out. Anyways I find this stupid. Sure you cant be sure that someone wont copy the original disc, I can understand that, but if the person is not a pirate, he wont do it anyways. If he would be a pirate, he would just download the game. Btw I heard that you can make backup copies about any game, if only you are using it. Is this true? What is the point in this, if this is true? Now this sounds like pirating a game!

Cainehill · #**166** April 21st, 2006, 10:03 AM

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I read it now....I never thought that theres some **** like this in the EULA. I only gave it out for a try to a trusted friend, because there was no demo for the game, so he could try it out. Anyways I find this stupid. Sure you cant be sure that someone wont copy the original disc, I can understand that, but if the person is not a pirate, he wont do it anyways. If he would be a pirate, he would just download the game.

Gee - "if he would be a pirate he would just download it"? Yep, _IF_ he had broadband connection good enough to download several gigabytes, _IF_ he wanted to trust that the crackers didn't put viruses, worms, or trojans into the game. No wonder companies want to put copy protection on their games.

Y'know : if you're naive enough to think that giving away the game to friends "isn't piracy", I have my doubts as to whether or not you know if any of the games you have use StarForce copy protection.

DominionsFan · #**167** April 21st, 2006, 12:11 PM

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I read it now....I never thought that theres some **** like this in the EULA. I only gave it out for a try to a trusted friend, because there was no demo for the game, so he could try it out. Anyways I find this stupid. Sure you cant be sure that someone wont copy the original disc, I can understand that, but if the person is not a pirate, he wont do it anyways. If he would be a pirate, he would just download the game.

Gee - "if he would be a pirate he would just download it"? Yep, _IF_ he had broadband connection good enough to download several gigabytes, _IF_ he wanted to trust that the crackers didn't put viruses, worms, or trojans into the game. No wonder companies want to put copy protection on their games.

Y'know : if you're naive enough to think that giving away the game to friends "isn't piracy", I have my doubts as to whether or not you know if any of the games you have use StarForce copy protection.

Well that was my opinion what I posted about this. What did you meant about Starforce protection? I know that some of my games using the SF method, but what was your point in that?

Cainehill · #**168** April 21st, 2006, 01:18 PM

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Y'know : if you're naive enough to think that giving away the game to friends "isn't piracy", I have my doubts as to whether or not you know if any of the games you have use StarForce copy protection.

Well that was my opinion what I posted about this. What did you meant about Starforce protection? I know that some of my games using the SF method, but what was your point in that?

You posted in another thread that StarForce wasn't causing you any problems. Frankly, I don't think you know what kind of copy protection is on your games, so my point is that your comments about StarForce not causing problems should be taken with skepticism. It's well known to cause a LOT of problems, even with up-to-date computers and versions of Windows XP. So odds are that you either don't have SF protected games, or you aren't savvy enough to know when your computer isn't working properly.

Morkilus · #**169** April 21st, 2006, 01:29 PM

Yeah... defending Starforce, even by saying you personally haven't had any problems... is not very "cool" in internet forums.

DominionsFan · #**170** April 21st, 2006, 07:24 PM

Yes ofc I got SF protected games, like Chaos League + expansion and some others. I never had problems with my DVD burner, HDD, windows, etc. and I know that my friends never had problems with it either.
I always thought that this SF hysteria is because of the pirates. This is the only real good protection method. If you ask me, the biggest whiners are the pirates themselves. Now that many company dropped SF, the pirates can be much happier. Well if SF is causing problems like you said, I am pretty sure that the SF devs can fix those. This is a decent protection idea, it would be a shame if it would be wasted like this. I hope that the SF devs can fix these things real fast, so no1 will have any problems.