MP: MA CBM Game Greenstone Bandar Log Victor

[Graeme Dice]

I'm good. Bandar beat me as Ermor when I made a few stratgic mistakes. I went for E4 S9, so my bless was very similar to Bandar's, and I expanded through the use of shadow vestals, principes, and later longdead horsemen. I had a great location, with huge amounts of room to expand into. Unfortunately, I got attacked before my massive investment in castles could pay off in hordes of longdead warriors. The plan was to skip most human troops, and rely almost completely on reanimated ones.

[ghoul31]

If you can't find a sub, then I'm fine with ending this.

Well, in the past few days no one has replied to my request, probably for the same reasons that Calahan gave. Also, it seems Mictlan has staled, no doubt because he expected the game to be finished....which I suppose it now is

I think I'll go ahead and send Hadrian a msg asking him to change the thread title declaring victory/declare the game finished on lamaserver. After that I'll go ahead and post in the HoF.

cheers!

[Hoplosternum]

Yes I thought we were finished. My turns take a while (and not in a fun way) and why bother if its all over?

[zegc-ben]

Yes we have a worthy winner, congratulation Grijalva.

I also want to congratulate Hoplosternum for his sportive spirit and to thank everybody for this nice time.

[welltimat]

I do not agree with crowning Bandar Log as a winner.
I do not agree with crowning Mictlan as a winner as well.
Given the choice i would continue.

Bandar Log needs a sub. Very experienced sub.
Lets delay the game until he finds one.

[welltimat]

And one more thing. I do not really understand WHY would anyone "declare" a winner in such situation when ooh-so-best-and-mighty-winner Bandar control LESS THAN 25% of the map and at least 7 other players still play. Some games start with less people!

[welltimat]

As for "you are the best, everyone who would replace you would be worse". Dominions is by a large chunk is a game of diplomacy and highly based on luck, initial placement, neighbors etc. If Bandar/Machaka/Ctis had an alliance since almost the beginning, no wonder they got to there they got.

Originally Posted by welltimat

As for "you are the best, everyone who would replace you would be worse". Dominions is by a large chunk is a game of diplomacy and highly based on luck, initial placement, neighbors etc. If Bandar/Machaka/Ctis had an alliance since almost the beginning, no wonder they got to there they got.

Please don't try to steal my thunder by saying that this "alliance" was what brought me victory. The "alliance" was really just two NAP3s and one (yes one) joint war waged by me and Machacka. If the "alliance" was so important, then how come Machacka and Ctis couldn't benefit like I did?

Besides, trying to trivialize why I was successful (luck, placement etc) is immature and won't change the facts as they stand.

In fact, welltimat, you've had an "alliance" (NAP3) with Mictlan for a long time and it didn't get you anywhere...well, maybe it kept Mictlan from destroying you You even used an "alliance" with Vanheim to help you destroy Ctis...you just made your move too late I would say.

I know how you feel though, its endgame and you're just started to wage your successful little war, thinking "OMG, I'm doing so well in this war, it can't be over!" Well, it is, and it wouldn't be fun for you if you tried to take on Mictlan.

Hoplosternum was being perhaps a bit too kind when he said you even have a chance against Mictlan. As he said, he's already out-blooded you, and blood-summons are (aside from tarts) is pretty much MA Abysia's only endgame.

I, for example, could have dropped Rudras-scs all over your turf and then had them merrily fly around raiding, whilst summoning new ones each turn. When you see the mechanics of it, you realize that is would just be a perpetual war of attrition. One that Abysia, even in late game, lacks the mobility for.

Remember too, that I had already been at war with Mictlan, Ryleh and Ashdod (three game leaders) for many turns and had steadily gained income, provinces and gems during that period. Although they all gave me a really hard time

Im going to go ahead and say that this ship has sailed. I do appreciate everyones' good sportsmanship in agreeing on that though, as its not always easy.

[ghoul31]

Yes we were losing ground. But if Abyssia joined in, we might have been able to turn things around.

And you haven't won anything.All you did is quit the game and ruin it for everyone. That makes you a loser, not a winner. Half the games I'm in have been ruined by people quitting in he middle of the game.

It takes a lot of nerve to ruin the game, then come here and brag about how great you are.