Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"? - Page 179

Grandpa Kim · #**1781** October 8th, 2003, 01:48 AM

Well, I won't use that as an excuse this time. At contact, I controlled slightly more than half the map and managed to hold you off well enough till I got the economy rolling as best I could. I thought I played rather well but in hindsight I can see I was too timid and my anticipation of your next move was lagging. I was reactive not proactive.

During the game it seemed to me you were too timid but I think that is just the nature of the game. I can see all my weaknesses (as you can see yours) and wonder why you don't exploit them. Of course, you must anticipate the nastiest defenses, you just can't take the chance! As it turned out,, you could have had me cheap anytime before turn 70!

Hmm, not sure that came out right.

What I'm trying to say is sometimes we must take bold risks, and I for one, seem to be chicken in that department. That's gonna change! Watch out for the Kamikaze Grandpa!

Phoenix-D · #**1782** October 8th, 2003, 02:23 AM

Oh, I took risks, just the wrong ones. Or are you forgetting how many fleets I lost to that damned sat defense field of yours in the SE?

If you had just waited one more turn, I could have had my vengance, too.

geoschmo · #**1783** October 8th, 2003, 04:28 AM

Congrats Phoenix, I look forward to meeting you next.

I find it terribly interesting that this will be my 16th Koth game and as far as i can rememebr I have yet to play anyone twice.

Slynky · #**1784** October 8th, 2003, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
Congrats Phoenix, I look forward to meeting you next.

I find it terribly interesting that this will be my 16th Koth game and as far as i can rememebr I have yet to play anyone twice.

I haven't played the same person twice (but I've not played near the amount of games you have in KOTH, Geo). However, I haven't played an opponent in KOTH from my own country yet. So, THERE'S my contribution to "strange" facts

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Asmala · #**1785** October 8th, 2003, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Slynky:
However, I haven't played an opponent in KOTH from my own country yet. So, THERE'S my contribution to "strange" facts .

Hey what a coincide, I have neither

Koth page is updated.

Slynky · #**1786** October 8th, 2003, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Asmala:

quote:
Originally posted by Slynky:
However, I haven't played an opponent in KOTH from my own country yet. So, THERE'S my contribution to "strange" facts .

Hey what a coincide, I have neither

Koth page is updated.

You're lucky anyone will play you from anywhere! As if you aren't mean enough in the game, then there's that evil-looking avatar of yours

Joachim · #**1787** October 9th, 2003, 04:24 AM

heh Koth gang,

I just want to publicly acknowledge Primitive's sportsmanship and generousity in our Koth game.

We have just started and Primitive took ancient race. He realised that I took Ice Methane and that I am basically screwed - so instead of a slaughter he offered a restart. Which I have taken up.

BTW, I thought the atmospheres/planet type were balanced or am I confusing that with FQM?

Thanks again Primitive, it is your sort of decent play that makes Koth and PBW so good.

Joachim

Baron Grazic · #**1788** October 9th, 2003, 08:00 AM

There is a mathematical formular somewhere here on Shrapnel that tells which combo has a higher nubmer of planets. From what I remember Ice Meathane was the clear loser.

DavidG · #**1789** October 9th, 2003, 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
There is a mathematical formular somewhere here on Shrapnel that tells which combo has a higher nubmer of planets. From what I remember Ice Meathane was the clear loser.

I seems to recall, yes it was the loser, but it was not a big loser was it? I though the differences were actually very minor. Of course now I'm just gonna have to take Ice Methane in my next KOTH game for an extra challenge.

geoschmo · #**1790** October 9th, 2003, 12:02 PM

I don't recall the exact formulas, but it goes something like this: (This only applies for the stock game)

The planets type/atmospheres are not "balanced" for each map, but they are random. Because of a mistake in teh sector type file Methane ice has one less selection then teh others and so averaged out over the entire quadrant, and over several maps they will tend to be slightly less frequent in total numbers.

The other rock and ice planets of all atmoshpere types have an equal chance of being used.

Gas giants are significantly less frequent, but this fact is compensated for at least partially by the fact that gas giants are larger on average and thus have more facility spots.

None atmosphere are more frequent because of the fact that all moons are but this fact is partially compensated for by the fact that all moons are tiny and so have fewer facility spots.

In the end though it really does not matter which planet type/atmosphere is more common on average for all maps. It only matters which type is more frequent on your map, and in the general vicinity of you homeworld. That is random with only small probability variances between types so trying to base your empire selection on those variances is useless. Play what you like or want to and roll the dice, keeping a couple things in mind.

If your play style prefers many small planets spread out all over, don't choose gas giant. If you prefer fewer planets that are larger and thus more defended consider takeing gas giant.