Real World Philospohy

[Atrocities]

The mind is never truly asleep, it fakes you into believing that it is at rest when in fact it is only plotting new ways to over come lifes problems.

[deccan]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
first of all, a writer can write a scenario any way they want. second, you seem to be describing a world where God pushes people past there limits. God doesn't do that. He pushes people to there limits and at those times i have grown faster than at any other time in my life.

Judge for yourself.

One is Living in Sin by Ian R. MacLeod, available for free at the Infinityplus archive.

The other is not available for free, but is available for purchase as an e-book. It's Hell is the Absence of God by Ted Chiang, one of my favourite authors.

[Will]

Originally posted by deccan:
God makes clear, explicit announcements from time to time, and people must obey those commands literally and blindly even though their purposes may be utter inscrutable and mystifying to human minds or face unavoidable, terrible punishments.

If you replace "God" with "Big Brother", it also sounds a lot like Oceania.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Atrocities
Happiness is an illusion of an imprisonned mind trying to make the best of a hopeless situation.

my mind is free, my imagination is boundless and my potential is infinite. what have i got to be sad about?

DavidG
Wow. Hey cheer up. Someone get this man a drink.

isn't alcohal either a depresent or a mood enhancer? either way, might be a bad idea.

Kamog
I think that it is normal and natural for people to be happy. Look at young children: they naturally laugh and play and they don't need a reason to be happy. Somehow, as we grow older, we get conditioned by society to be serious and 'mature', and therefore don't allow ourselves to be happy as often as we could be.

hey, that's what i think!

Atrocities
The mind is never truly asleep, it fakes you into believing that it is at rest when in fact it is only plotting new ways to over come lifes problems.

i have two types of dreams. one type is a metaphor for life's problems. the other type is my subconcious having fun.

Deccan
Judge for yourself.

well, i didn't read all of the first one, just enough. like i said, a writer can write it any way he wants. and it seems to me that the writer still didn't get something. the main character chose his life. nobody forced him. aside from that, God is rational and his responses always fit the situation. what the writer has done is the same sort of thing if i had wrote a book about you, Deccan, and portrayed you as a bloodthirsty tyrant. that book would be baseless slander, since i don't think your a bloodthirsty tyrant. so, the book is both innefective and a mockup.

[Atrocities]

A free mind only thinks it free like an insane mind thinks it is normal.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

prove it.

[DavidG]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
prove it.

prove he's wrong.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

i'm happy. it's better than sad. why bother?

i truly don't see the need. any way you slice it, happy IS better than sad. i know i can't prove it in any more than a 'feel good' way, but he can't prove his on a 'feel bad' way, simply because he'd have to prove why that'd be better. so as far as i can see, the burden of proof is with him.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by DavidG:

quote:

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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
prove it.

prove he's wrong.

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Actually... it is up to Atrocities to prove that he is right first...

[Atrocities]

You proved it yourselfs by asking me to prove it.

[ November 25, 2003, 03:49: Message edited by: Atrocities ]