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Old December 3rd, 2003, 09:03 PM

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He keeps doing that, too. I often wonder if he just had a very sheltered childhood, or if he's pulling our leg.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...Frank+Zappa%22
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He keeps doing that, too. I often wonder if he just had a very sheltered childhood, or if he's pulling our leg.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...Frank+Zappa%22
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Old December 3rd, 2003, 10:01 PM

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I never heard of Frank Zappa either.
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Eh?

Kids these day, no sense of history.
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thanks. just because you know alot about a celebrity doesn't mean someone else does. if the media doesn't put that person into the spotlight, knowing about that person often depends on chance.

and if it's before my time, well, the only reason i know about say, Red Skelton, is because my Mom and Dad had mentioned him and one of the tv stations occasionally puts on reruns.

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Old December 4th, 2003, 03:36 PM

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He's not just any celebrity, though, he was a musician, a satirist, an anti-censorship activist (in interesting ways), and one of the greatest rock concert entertainers ever. What would the world be like without Dancing Fool?

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2.3. I find some of Zappa's lyrics to be offensive. Is Zappa a sex-
ist?


Zappa has written many songs that seem to ``attack'' a particular
lifestyle or belief system. Most people will find at least one of
these songs to be directed at them personally. The best advice for
those offended: Lighten up!. Zappa seems to believe that if you cannot
laugh at yourself, then you are taking yourself too seriously.

From The Real Frank Zappa Book, Chapter Am I A 'Sexist' - Or What?

If you were to take all the lyrics I've ever written and
analyze how many songs are about `women in demeaning posi-
tions,' as opposed to `men in demaning positions' you would
find that most of the songs are about stupid men.


The songs I write about women are not gratuitous attacks on
them, but statements of fact. The song ``Jewish Princess''
caused the Anti- Defamation League of the B'nai B'rith to
complain bitterly and demand an apology. I did not apologize
then and refuse to do so now because, unlike `The Unicorn',
such creatures do exist - and deserve to be `commemorated'
with their own special opus.

The basic function of any ethnic protective PR organization
is to do what Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-California)
suggested on the `Larry King show' - ``maintain the
fiction.'' (He used it in context of protecting the Reagan
administration during the Iran-contra scandal, suggesting it
was our duty as Americans to support the President by
looking the other way.)

Italians have an organization to `maintain the fiction' that
no Italians are in the Mafia, nor do they sell drugs while
engaging in murder for hire. If you want to believe that,
fine - welcome to Fantasy Land. If you want to believe that
wrestling is real, go for it - and if you want to believe
that women are a wonderful species that: 1 never goes to the
toilet; 2 can't possibly do anything wrong; 3 is completely
superior to men, then believe it - whatever makes you feel
good.


2.4. What are the names of Frank Zappa's kids?


Frank's wife is Gail and his kids are named: Moon Unit, Dweezil,
Ahmet, and Diva Muffin.


Dweezil and Ahmet have a rock 'n roll band named Z.


From The Real Frank Zappa Book:

When Dweezil was born, Gail decided to have `natural child-
birth'. At that time, the only hospital in Los Angeles that
would allow this process to occur with a Dad in the delivery
room was Hollywood Presbyterian Hospital.


When it was time for the Big Delivery, we experienced a
slight delay - we had to fill out a mass of papers before
they'd let us in, riddled with irrelevant questions like:
``What religion are you?''

Gail looked at me and said ``What do we put?'' I said,
``Musician.''

That was the first thing that upset the admitting nurse. The
second thing to spoil her afternoon was when she asked:
``What are you going to name the child?'' Gail said,
``Dweezil.''

Gail's got a funny looking toe which had been the source of
family amusement so often that it had aquired a `technical
name': it wasn't really a toe - it was a ``Dweezil.'' I
thought then and continue to think today, that Dweezil is a
nice name. **** the nurse if she didn't like it.

The nurse pleaded and pleaded with us not to name the child
Dweezil. Labor pains and all, she was going to make Gail
stand there unless we gave her another name to put on the
form. I couldn't see letting Gail suffer just to argue the
point, so I rattled off an assortment of names of guys we
knew: IAN (Underwood) DON (van Vliet) CALVIN (Schenkel)
EUCLID (James ``Moterhead'' Sherwood) As a result Dweezil's
original birth certificate name was Ian Donald Calvin Euclid
Zappa. The nurse thought that was okay.

In spite of this harrowing experince, we always called him
Dweezil. He was five years old when he discovered the `real
names' on his birth certificate.

Dweezil was very upset, and demanded that steps be taken to
rectify this tragedy. We hired an attorney and had his name
legally changed to Dweezil.


From the April 1993 Playboy Interview:

PLAYBOY: Would they have been different had you named them
Sally or John?


ZAPPA: It's the Last name that get's them in trouble.

PLAYBOY: How?

ZAPPA: I'm viewed as being weird. When somebody calls you
weird, then anything you touch becomes weird. On the other
hand, they like being weird.


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i have no idea. and personally, i've never been a fan of 'subliminal education'. besides never being a fan of subliminal anything, i think: 1: that most of the people who actually need to learn something are just going to hear/see the surface and 2: ah man, i forgot 2. but there was a two. maybe i'll remember it.

what am i doing, going senile?
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i'd like to take this moment to note that as of this message, the avatar thread is 1337.

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