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AGoetz · #**1931** October 23rd, 2002, 01:23 AM

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How about giving the Vorlons a small ship that has a built in cloaking ability, and only the Shadows can detect it. This would allow the Vorlons to keep tabs on other races without making their presence known.

Saw your post. It is an idea - but would you want the Shadows to also get such a hull? And would this weaken the TechnoMages with their specialty disguised hulls?

Fyron · #**1932** October 23rd, 2002, 01:26 AM

Don't the Shadows have cloaking devices or somesuch? They should.

Dead Meat · #**1933** October 23rd, 2002, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Don't the Shadows have cloaking devices or somesuch? They should.

Not that I have noticed while looking at them. I wouldn't mind having the Vorlons cloak so long as the shadows can see them / do the same. Though I don't recall the Vorlons being able to do so in the show. I could be mistaken though.

Can't say about the Techonmages(sp?) sense I havn't looked at their techs. But you could just make it so that the Shadows, Vorlons, Techonmages and the other Anchents can see each other but not the younger races

pathfinder · #**1934** October 23rd, 2002, 01:49 AM

IF: The Shadows had the capability to "half-phase" beween hyperspace and "normal" space using a phasing drive and bio-thrusters(which made them almost invisible/indestructible). Don't know how/if Val plancs to implement this ability/component. Nothing else found Vorlons or Shadows (yet).

[ October 23, 2002, 01:00: Message edited by: pathfinder ]

Nomor · #**1935** October 23rd, 2002, 01:52 AM

IF: I've seen shots of the Mars Shadow vessel being dug up and it shimmered with the same colour as the earth background. It would appear that the Shadow being a "living" ship had a sort of chameleon ability that would make it hard to see, the perfect camouflage.

In the episode were Keffer gets fried the Shadow did not appear on his scanner as anything he could recognise and he just got lucky/unlucky that it phased in, in front of him.

Being a "living" ship may have given it a low EM signature. We can assume that the Shadows therefore have a stealth mode by this nature, but would they need to develop a true cloaking system as they can phase in and out of real space at will. They are too powerful to be bothered by the lesser races seeing them and the other Ancients would likely have some way to detect a cloak. IMHO. Phew...

[ October 23, 2002, 00:54: Message edited by: Nomor ]

Dead Meat · #**1936** October 23rd, 2002, 01:52 AM

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IF: The Shadows had a "phasing" device which made them almost invisible/indestructible. I'll check my AoG source material and see.

Yes, I remeber that, but I have read conflicting reports on weither or not it allowed them to cloak (though persoanl i think that it does) so i didn't want to come out and say that they (shadows) should be able to cloak.

[ October 23, 2002, 00:54: Message edited by: Dead Meat ]

Fyron · #**1937** October 23rd, 2002, 01:56 AM

The Shadows enter Hyperspace in a manner that allows them to become invisible. The exact method used doesn't matter. This would be represented by a cloaking device in SE4. Not a ship hull with cloaking built in, but an actual comp that could be placed on any ship. I though the Shadows would have this already. This is why I suggested the Vorlons get a small ship size (smaller than Scout) which has a cloaking ability built-in, instead of an actual cloaking component. Although, they can enter special pockets (dimensions?) in Hyperspace, which allows them to hide from the younger races. So maybe they could get 1 type of cloaking, which they and the Shadows have scanners that can see. The Shadows would get another type of cloaking, which only they could see. Then, add Stealth devices, which races such as the Minbari have, which would be for the younger races to use. The ancient races would be able to easily detect these (scanner at level 1 ancient tech).

pathfinder · #**1938** October 23rd, 2002, 02:04 AM

Yow, I was editing my post on "cloaking"....and couple more Posts

Fyron · #**1939** October 23rd, 2002, 02:12 AM

Try not to make a post until after you have written what you want to write in it.

Nomor · #**1940** October 23rd, 2002, 02:14 AM

That seems perfect. Now how about lesser races having fighters that can hide in Asteroid belts and spy on their siblings. You could also give Asteroid Belts a 1% ship damaging property so that fighters could not park out there the whole time. Caused by stress and collisions with small debris. Ships with mining equipment would be immune to this effect?