MP: Pointy Sticks MA started

[Mightypeon]

Another mod nation is ok as long as:
1: it is in the mod compatibility project
2: Nobody has an issue with it

Otherwise, greetings and welcome aboard tratorix, Jiggymike and Ossa.
Roster:

Mightypeon: Black Rose of Ulm
Gurthan: Caelum
Ghoul 31: Acro
Dogged57: Tien Chi
Shatner: Pythium
Tratorix: Ctis
Jiggymike: Do be determined
Ossa: Mictlan

We are now at 8 players, I am looking at perhaps 2 more.

[Jiggymike]

Hey I'm actually going to pass for now. Don't have the time for another game and was hoping to do one with some different mods. Hopefully you'll still join mine when I start it

[Ephraim]

I'd be interested in trying Atlantis, if you don't mind a water nation. If you want this to be a land-lubber-only affair, I'll pick a land nation, maybe Agartha.

[Mightypeon]

I would not mind a Water nation. With one water nation, Rusty Nails seems like a nice wrap around map.

[Shadrach]

I'd like to play as Shangri-La.

[shatner]

Can you provide a link to this Shangri-La mod nation's development thread. If you end up playing as them, I'd like know a little something about them before fighting, allying or trading with them.

[tratorix]

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/...p?showtopic=27

Here you go.

[shatner]

Originally Posted by tratorix

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/...p?showtopic=27

Here you go.

Wow! I haven't given the troops much scrutiny but those commanders are nuts! It looks like someone took EA T'ien Ch'i (but with better heroes, which is saying something because T'ien Ch'i has really good heroes), combined them with MA Bandar Log and then gave everything cold resistance/immunity. Also, they get an extra 80 design points from preferring cold-2.

They have a lot of really good mages, the majority of which are sacred. Their top-of-the-line cap-only mage (the Hidden Master) has the following stats:

400 gold for
A2E2S2H3 + 1.1 FESA
Flying
Stealthy
ColdRes 75
NeedNotEat
Map Move 3
Max Age 200
Can throw lightning

The closest MA mage of comparable power is Pythium's Arch Theurge:
380 gold for
A2W1S3H3 + 1.1 FAWS
Really, really old
Map Move 1

That and their 3 recruit-anywhere Lama mage-priests are comparable to many MA nation's cap-only mages. I could see this nation working, maybe, in the Early Age but this seems pretty jarring here in MA. Feel free to point out how wrong I am, but my first reaction is to call this nation over-powered.

[shatner]

More mage analysis. All mages are recruit-anywhere unless specified otherwise. All told, Shangri-la can recruit a maximum of the following in all paths WITHOUT relying on a lucky 10% path for their mages:
Air 3
Earth 3
Water 2
Fire 1
Death 2
Nature 2
Astral 3
Blood 2

None of their mages suffer from old age. Everyone has Cold Resistance 50 or 100. Everyone has Mountain Survival and map-move 2 or 3. They have 3 stealthy mage-priests, including a recruit-anywhere mage-priest-spy. Of their 8 mages, 6 are sacred and have holy 1 or better. They have stealthy troops, stealthy leaders, a healer and are capable of casting the site-search spells for all paths except fire (they max out at F1 casters and none of them have D1 so they can't forge the cheap fire booster). All of their casters except for one capital-only can join a communion via astral or blood magic.

And I haven't bothered to look at their soldiers or their summons yet.

Again, I say wow!


Red-hat Lama
290 gold
A1E2S2H2 + 1.1 FAES
Stealthy
Mountain Survival
Map Move 3
ColdRes 50

Yellow-Hat Lama
220 gold
A1E1S1H2 + 1.1 AES
Mountain Survival
Map Move 3
ColdRes 50
okleader

Black-Hat Lama
280 gold
A1S2D1H2 + 1.2 AESD
Mountain Survival
Map Move 3
ColdRes 50
FortuneTeller 10

Wise One (capital only)
240 gold
20hp, 15str, Ape chasis
W1E1N1 + .5 ENW
Mountain Survival
ColdRes 100
Healer 30
Cold Power 1

Ragyapa Priests
160 gold
D1H1 + .5 AD
Mountain Survival
ColdRes 50

Ngagspa Sorcerer
180 gold
E1D1B1 + 1 AEDB
Research Bonus -3 (research penalty)
Mountain Survival
ColdRes 50

Shangrilan Monk
100 gold
S1H1 + .1 AEFS
Mountain Survival
ColdRes 50
Stealthy
Spy

[BrodieSWR]

Shinuyama for me, if there is room!