OT: Depressing Thought

[Timstone]

Greybeard said:
If you find faith in Christ, you will have hope, and eternal life, which can't be taken from you.

Very well said, BUT, I really don't like that christ stuff. I was baptised and followed the christian faith for about 10 years, but soon after I discovered science and the convidense to believe in myself. After that I really had no need for a god anymore. I'm not trying to convert you or putting up a flamewar, but I'm still not very convertable with the need to believe in some sort of allpowerful figure. I can't really understand it anymore or I don't want to understand. Everything is explainable through science.
I think humanity will find worldpeace when they discard every god they believe in or have one faith only. Untill that day comes, humanity will fight amongst itself.

Sorry AT to ruin this birthdayparty with this little discussion. Have another brewski!

[Ragnarok]

Atrocities said:
This just makes me think, if he, the richest man in the world can't be happy with all that money, then what hope is there for me?

Money never has been able to and never will be able to bring true happiness to anyone's life. It may bring contentment for a short time but in the end it does nothing but cause more problems.

There are a few scriptures I could quote you/give you to look up yourself but since things would end up turning towards religion and politics after that point I will refrain.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Money = temptation for you and those around you. Temptation = possible loss of control. Loss of control = doing things you havn't thought about enough.

[Atrocities]

If I had boat loads of cash and never had to worry about money again, I would buy a mountain and fence it bugger in with a twelve foot tall, razor wired toped, fence with gun emplacements every fifty yards. J/K, I would have no gun emplacements, just fortified camera's.

I would then build a modest home, and have trails cut into the moutain for my hiking, biking, quading pleasure. I would of course go out of my way to preserve wild life habitat and such.

[Renegade 13]

Well, I think everyone in the world has felt how you feel at some point in their life. However, I'm sure that whoever you are, and whatever you have, on some day's you'd feel like you'd lost some stuff worth having. And perhaps you have. But you have to think of the stuff you do have. Life. Life is worth more than anything else in the world. And think, you have your friends here, many of them. And, if I may say so, there's lots of good people here, friends, who are worth more than truckloads of money.

Hang in there Atrocities, it'll get better I guarantee it.

Happy birthday!

[Slynky]

Atrocities said:
If I had boat loads of cash and never had to worry about money again, I would buy a mountain and fence it bugger in with a twelve foot tall, razor wired toped, fence with gun emplacements every fifty yards. J/K, I would have no gun emplacements, just fortified camera's.

I would then build a modest home, and have trails cut into the moutain for my hiking, biking, quading pleasure. I would of course go out of my way to preserve wild life habitat and such.

You post a lot of thoughts worthy of threads by themselves.

I see what you mean by your B. Gates example ('cause I've wondered just how much winning 20 million $ would make me happy...like I said, a whole new thread IF people REALLY considered just how much better their life would be needing to worry about being kidnapped every time you stepped out of the house)

Then, there's the ever appearing "look" we take on our lives periodically that (lots of times) results in a certain disatisfaction in how things have gone so far. Even that could be another thread as I'm sure a lot of good comments would result (and things to make people think).

But, to respond to the thread title, "Depressing Thought", I'll begin with a cliche'. "I cried when I had no shoes till I met a man with no feet." Trite as it may seem, the world only needs to be looked upon peridically to see how true that is. As an example, at Dragon*Con, my wife and I went to McDonalds for lunch one day. We griped at the long lines and lack of cash registers open. Finally, we got our food and sat down. It was then my wife noticed a guy in a motorized wheelchair who was so bad off that he had to lay backwards in it (almost reclining). He had the same disease a co-worker of mine had...I forget the name but it deals with the inability to control motor functions. His arms swung around uncontrolably and his head twitched left, right, and forward. But he had a tunic and leather belt on and some nice elven boots. Obviously, he had come to Dragon*Con to have fun the best way he could. And, there were my wife and I complaining about a long line. It made me feel very small.

I'm kind of sad that way. By sad, I mean a bad individual because I seem to need that kind of reminder too often when I should be able to feel it once and remember it forever. But I seem to need constant reminder that I don't have it bad AT ALL!

So, my advice in this kind of "depression" is to try to remember people like that. People that don't have a pot to piss in. I think I may have mentioned it before but in case I haven't, I'm pretty happy with my house, my family, my income, and my health. Since a lot of people worry about money (and a lot DO!), I'm one that doesn't. Yes, I worry about my job going away but I'm not so unthankful that I want even MORE. I'd be quite content if everything stayed just the way it is...I kept my job, the inflation rate stayed the same, etc. 'Cause, you see, each month, my wife and I add over $100 to our savings. I don't want more than that...not really. I'd stay right there if it never changed...because that's enough.

And, of course, there's the other old saying that goes..."Money isn't everything." And the counter to that goes..."People who say that don't have to worry about money."

I'm not trying to preach. After all, it seems I've only come up with cliche's. But saying like those didn't appear for no reason at all.

My wife, for example. I am her 4th marriage. She never knew what she wanted, I think. All but gave up on finding a person she could find true happiness with. She finally settled on an old codger like me (15 years her senior) before she could believe in love again. And get this (if you've seen my pics and hers...), she is worried all the time that I might leave her! Why am I on this topic? Not sure. I suspect to illustrate that even though one may feel they will never get some of the things they are looking for, they most likely will.

I love the fact that you miss your cat. I can SO relate to that. And, as my mother always told me (and my sister), "A man who prefers cats over dogs will be the better husband." Not a cliche' (smile) since I haven't heard it anywhere else. But, it seems to make sense (to me).

People get depressed when they don't have the things that they think they should have (by a certain time), I think. Some people will never get them (or all of them). But rest assured, MOST people find a lot of the things they want in life. And if they don't think so, they only need to take a look at the guy with no feet in order to understand that they did.

Well, 'nuff said. This has always been a forum for SE4. It's the main reason we are here. But, in case you are "blind", it's always been a forum for a few other things as well. So, I post my thoughts in hopes it helps a little bit, my distant friend.

[Aiken]

AT, your next step would be a proclaiming of Independent Atrocities States, enactment of the constitution and forming the army. "Heading Toward the World Domination" pocketbook - chapter I, paragraph 1, line 1.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I lost my dog. Still don't know how, they got loose and one came back with oil on her fur. It still hurts. But I am fortunate to have known that dog for as long as I did.