Blood Simple?! - Page 2

spirokeat · #11 October 6th, 2005, 01:17 PM

I almost feel like thats an exploit though. I just think their should be a way, albeit different to others to have the ability to generate reasonable dominion.

I've been searching the boards for general strats on Mictlan, and there doesn't seem to be much. Its mainly what you can or can't do with blood. Mictlan are like a whole other world to that though due to some odd characteristics...the sacrifice being one of em.

Perhaps I should start a thread.

Spiro.

NTJedi · #12 October 6th, 2005, 01:28 PM

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quantum_mechani said:
For the most part, Mictlan only spreads as much dominion as it needs to survive.

Dangerous if your enemy carries a strong dominion and makes many global spells weak or ineffective.

quantum_mechani · #13 October 6th, 2005, 01:33 PM

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NTJedi said:

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quantum_mechani said:
For the most part, Mictlan only spreads as much dominion as it needs to survive.

Dangerous if your enemy carries a strong dominion and makes many global spells weak or ineffective.

If the enemy has a strong dominion, obviously you simply need a little more push to meet that survival level. And yes some globals don't work so well, but you can switch gears and start pushing dominion if you really feel the need to use one.

Rathar · #14 October 6th, 2005, 01:49 PM

Thanks for the ideas folks!

The problem appears to be that I don't want to let go of national troops and other such traditional things which cost income but I now see how I actually get more value turning them into magic resources.

Rathar

Wish · #15 October 6th, 2005, 02:37 PM

the hard part is taking a prolific high population province and settign its taxes to zero.

the rest is easy. as you go eventually also equip your blood hunters with blood daggers, brazen skulls, and one of the two blood enhancing armors (one of them also enhances nature, but has its downfalls) and continue to push them along. I often get over 10 bloodslaves to a single searcher when doing it like this, you get 3 going and you're throwing out high end blood summons all over the place (not to mention succubus is the one "assassin" available to any nation willing to blood hunt. and with way more HPs than your average assassin)

Ironhawk · #16 October 6th, 2005, 04:00 PM

Equip blood hunters with blood boosters? That doesnt seem like an efficient strategy to me. Best to spend the least amount possible (just giving them a dousing rod) for the highest possible return. Save boosters for whoever your real bloodmage is and use the slaves to summon archdevils or something.

Another reason not to put anything more than you absolutely need on your hunters is because they are so vulnerable. Unless you've madcastled or something, your hunters will generally be spread out all over your empire with minimal protection. A wise player can raid your hunting operations, killing expensive mages and disrupting your blood supply lines.

Alneyan · #17 October 6th, 2005, 04:38 PM

Even if you do have all your hunters behind walls (and that should be the case as soon as feasible), Earth Attack and similar spells will utterly slaughter your hunters like there's no tomorrow, so you should expect those hunters to be expendable.

I wonder why those mages don't claim a life insurance or some such.

Rathar · #18 October 6th, 2005, 07:19 PM

I am SO glad that for my first MP game I am playing with 7 of my friends, none of whom has ever played this MP..!

I get the feeling that with just about any of you in the game it would be all over now (turn 25, biiig map) as we are still using twigs and rocks to arm ourselves!

heh heh

Rathar

P.S. I am the only one of us who reads this forum with any frequency and I am #1 by a long shot! weee!

shovah · #19 October 6th, 2005, 07:40 PM

glad they could help

btw if your bored and want to play a blitz against them try something like caelum and just make tons of basic seraphs and script them to quickness and then just false horror spam (take either wizards tower or watchtower and try to make 3 castles + 3 labs straight away and soon as you have some income make 4 seraphs a turn.

they will hate you for it probably after a while though

NTJedi · #20 October 6th, 2005, 09:03 PM

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quantum_mechani said:
If the enemy has a strong dominion, obviously you simply need a little more push to meet that survival level. And yes some globals don't work so well, but you can switch gears and start pushing dominion if you really feel the need to use one.

Yes but it's because of these reasons and the extra micro-management that mictlan is usually avoided as a nation to play, especially for large maps.