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April 26th, 2003, 11:35 PM
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Re: refiting an existing ship
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I thought about that too. Is it a good strategy to make half ships and then retrofit them to the full Version? Perhaps it is perceived as an exploit?
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It is not an exploit. This thread covers the subject rather well:
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...038;p=3#000031
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April 26th, 2003, 11:52 PM
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Re: refiting an existing ship
On a similiar note, here's an expensive little trick I used in a solo game. I play a psychic race so I capture a lot of enemy ships, but I always refit them to my own designs. One of my enemies had a very dissimiliar dreadnought that was more than a 50% difference on cost, and I couldn't refit. As a solution, I created a design that was about 1/2 way between it's cost and the cost of my own dreadnought. I then did a refit to my "middle" cost ship, then immediately refit again to my design.
I favor dedicated "scrapyards" where I build 2-3 repair bases (with 4 repair bays each) so I can refit and completely repair a dozen or so ships in one turn, then send them back out to the fight.
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April 27th, 2003, 08:12 AM
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Re: refiting an existing ship
Slick :
I'm unsure if i'm really that devious, but the first time I saw retrofit, the idea of finishing ships by refiting appeared almost immediatly in my mind... I dont like the idea of spending two turns on a ship because my SY produce 3000 minerals of working power and my ship costs 3100.
Anyway I'm speaking of solo play here, so no big deal. In MP I doubt you can spot a player doing that (not that I will do this if I ever goes MP).
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April 27th, 2003, 08:26 AM
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Re: refiting an existing ship
Retroseries building is a widely accepted strategy in MP games. Most people I have talked to about it (and that is quite a few people ) do it themselves from time to time.
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April 27th, 2003, 09:08 AM
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Re: refiting an existing ship
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Slick :
I'm unsure if i'm really that devious, but the first time I saw retrofit, the idea of finishing ships by refiting appeared almost immediatly in my mind... I dont like the idea of spending two turns on a ship because my SY produce 3000 minerals of working power and my ship costs 3100.
Anyway I'm speaking of solo play here, so no big deal. In MP I doubt you can spot a player doing that (not that I will do this if I ever goes MP).
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As stated, unless specifically disallowed in multiplayer, retrofitting to shorten build time is generally allowed. There is a trade off: it does cost a lot more to go through several retrofits than to build it from scratch. So you save time at the cost of much more resources. It's part of the game. Most people believe that if you want to pay for it, it's fine.
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[ April 27, 2003, 08:10: Message edited by: Slick ]
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April 27th, 2003, 11:54 AM
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Re: refiting an existing ship
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On a similiar note, here's an expensive little trick I used in a solo game. I play a psychic race so I capture a lot of enemy ships, but I always refit them to my own designs. One of my enemies had a very dissimiliar dreadnought that was more than a 50% difference on cost, and I couldn't refit. As a solution, I created a design that was about 1/2 way between it's cost and the cost of my own dreadnought. I then did a refit to my "middle" cost ship, then immediately refit again to my design.
I favor dedicated "scrapyards" where I build 2-3 repair bases (with 4 repair bays each) so I can refit and completely repair a dozen or so ships in one turn, then send them back out to the fight.
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Sounds hugely expensive, especially on a dreadnought.
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April 27th, 2003, 05:22 PM
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Re: refiting an existing ship
You should try it one stellar manipulation ships. Don't even talk about Ringworld type bases. The expenses can be mind blowing!
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