this was a bummer... - Page 2

mattyburn7 · #1 February 2nd, 2012, 12:04 PM

And to answer the other question about Noobs. Yes. 2 weeks ago I had never played an MP game and Now I'm 2 Noob games and hopefully a 3rd soon. They are very enjoyable and you learn a lot from watching and the boards. They take very little time also. There is a one that still needs 1 player and another 1 just starting if you would like to join.

Kobal2 · #2 February 2nd, 2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mattyburn7

And to answer the other question about Noobs. Yes. 2 weeks ago I had never played an MP game and Now I'm 2 Noob games and hopefully a 3rd soon. They are very enjoyable and you learn a lot from watching and the boards. They take very little time also.

Take it from this sucker: yeah, early turns take 5 minutes.
You don't want to be playing multiple mid-to-end games at once though. It will eat your life.

When I first started playing dominions MP and was *really* OCD about everything, even playing 2 games at the same time (one late game, one early-mid) occupied almost all of my daily brain time. I'm serious - I could barely concentrate on my work.
These days I don't get as involved any more. I think. I still try to restrict myself to one game, or at least give each successive game a couple months' head start.

parone · #3 February 2nd, 2012, 06:52 PM

thanks to all who weighed in. all usefull info, and im sure you are all correct on some level. as i will likely never progress much beyond a new to below average player, it sounds as though i have little to worry about. now i just gotta come up with $60 before everyone stops playing!

Gandalf Parker · #4 February 2nd, 2012, 07:43 PM

Heehee. That doesnt seem to be a danger. Not like other games. Ive paid as much for games that lasted about a month then someone posted an undeniable walk-thru that won every time. Those games died.

Dominions 1, 2, 3 have stayed on some of our computers thru many upgraded machines. And years later we are still arguing about tactics and walk thrus. Even if it did ever happen, I think we can count on Johan to patch a wrench into it.

Gandalf Parker · #5 February 3rd, 2012, 02:06 PM

Feel free to check out http://www.dom3minions.com

The Mods and Maps both offer some very different methods of play. The Hosted games also showcase some very non-standard games. The Hosting link goes even farther with a link to a thread full of non-standard ideas, and a challenge to come up with a variation I cant host.

Any of those, or any other variant, can be hosted there. Most of the games hosted on that system are from forums other than this one. Anything can be run. (altho if it is entirely PbEM and fits in their menu of offerings I would prefer people use LLamaServer.net just to share the load)

Torin · #6 February 4th, 2012, 02:22 PM

I disagree with posters here that claim everithing is fine.
I started creating MP games with random nations only because some players only play with nations that exploits an horrendous feature. They only play with nations like vanheim that can cloud trapeze a thug with sneak ability and then sneak out. Why cant you zap him with a spell like it would be logical. because he sneaks before spell. Isnt that ridiculous?
That needs to be changed by a patch.
I fixed that creating only random games. I know who are the players that like to use exploits ande they never join my games because they wouldnt perform with a random nation.

Kobal2 · #7 February 4th, 2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Torin

I disagree with posters here that claim everithing is fine.
I started creating MP games with random nations only because some players only play with nations that exploits an horrendous feature. They only play with nations like vanheim that can cloud trapeze a thug with sneak ability and then sneak out. Why cant you zap him with a spell like it would be logical. because he sneaks before spell. Isnt that ridiculous?
That needs to be changed by a patch.
I fixed that creating only random games. I know who are the players that like to use exploits ande they never join my games because they wouldnt perform with a random nation.

Err... wot ? It's not an exploit in any way, shape or form. It's just something Vanheim can do that other nations can't. Every nation has some proprietary feature that gives them an edge. Is it an exploit that MA Ermor/LA C'tis can vomit hundreds of free, superior undead from their caps every turn, that TC can recruit lots of superb research mages with barely any gold investment, that Hinnom will wreck your armies early game even without a bless because that's how it (literally) rolls, that Panir freespawn a dozen maenads per turn each or that Arco can afford to mindhunt even other astral nations in bulk because it has priestesses to heal the feebleminds instantly ?

Speaking of which, mind hunt alone will wreck a Vanheim player relying solely on that particular strat. Just sayin'

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Gandalf Parker · #8 February 4th, 2012, 02:32 PM

The game does have a burnout level. The expert level tends to be the group mentioned above IMO. Cant really hold it against them for preferring to create games that allow them to win by their skills. Beyond that much play are the burnouts. They tend to produce some of the most popular 3rd party addons and services. And only show up once in awhile for really interesting variations.

But I still hold that it tends to be true of this forum more than the others. Different forums and channels have very different feels to them. And it reflects in their Dom3 games.

parone · #9 February 4th, 2012, 04:34 PM

well gandalf, which channel would u recommend for a beginner?

Gandalf Parker · #10 February 4th, 2012, 05:00 PM

What channel? None.
I think that all of the IRC channels tend to help new players by training them. Many months of fun and experimentation can be skipped that way.

Besides which, the best forums and channels are like gold mines. Its only best if you dont publicly announce where it is