A thought on the Talisman / Live on Pay-Per-View: Geo vs. Fyron - Page 2

Fyron · #11 July 12th, 2003, 09:04 AM

I (and everyone else) can certainly argue about the realism.

tesco samoa · #12 July 12th, 2003, 09:14 AM

i am not real....

p.s. as a mount is a good idea....

As then it comes down to choices... Do I go for range and damage or do i go for the auto hit...

Fyron · #13 July 12th, 2003, 09:17 AM

Of course you aren't Tesco. You are just a bot made by that British supermarket chain.

Loser · #14 July 14th, 2003, 02:47 PM

I like the idea of making the Talisman make ships easier to hit. Or make the thing terribly expensive, as that will inflict cost during construction but also cost during usage.

Hell, you could make the thing make every ship in the fleet easier to hit, every ship in the system if you wanted to. It is possible to penalize the Talisman, but will that ever balance it?

And I don't think realism is worth much, other than an interesting issue to argue about.

spoon · #15 July 14th, 2003, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spoo:
Make it so that the Talisman is only available to bases, weapon platforms, and satellites (i.e. for defensive purposes only).

I think that would make it more or less useless, since defensive structures play a fairly small role in the game by the time you would have the Talisman...

I'd balance it by increasing size (100k+ ???), and cost (2000,2000,2000???).

As it is, though, against experienced players, taking the Religious trait is more of a liability, since it gives the other players a reason to band against you. Lowering your Aggressiveness is just a nail in your coffin.

Sort of funny how that works. In most games, the Talisman will give you Uncontestable Power. But in others, it will bring about your Certain Downfall.

Gozra · #16 July 14th, 2003, 06:58 PM

Is it possible to make the talisman only usable once or twice a combat turn?

And I don't think the talisman is a huge boogyman just a medium sized one. I have found in this game there are counters to everything.

And BTW one satillite armed with one talisman allows all the other Sat's stacked with it to use the 'Effect'. Talisman is a tough trait to fight but not impossible.

Fyron · #17 July 14th, 2003, 10:00 PM

Used correctly, the Talisman is an impossible trait to defeat.

geoschmo · #18 July 14th, 2003, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Used correctly, the Talisman is an impossible trait to defeat.

No, that is not correct. Because the other players can still gang up on you and overwhelm you even if you play the theoretical "perfect game" for using the talisman. You can do everything right but your opponents still have to not do everything right for you to win.

Geoschmo

EDIT: Not to mention the randomness of the start could have a significant impact on your ability to do everything "correctly". Even in a one on one game the tailsman player can do everything right and lose if he get's a sucky start or his opponent is skilled and fast enough to knock him out.

[ July 14, 2003, 21:12: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Fyron · #19 July 14th, 2003, 10:16 PM

If you allow them to rush you early on or you allow the other players to all gang up on you, then obviously you have not been playing very well at all.

rdouglass · #20 July 14th, 2003, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
If you allow them to rush you early on or you allow the other players to all gang up on you, then obviously you have not been playing very well at all.

IF, sometimes I am totally amazed at the logic you use to justify your position. It doesn't matter what you say, you CAN do everything perfectly and still lose with the Talisman.

What does the things you do have to do with whether the other players are going to gang up on you or not?