obat53 Switzerland

[Pats]

see post above

[Pats]

With replacing the Hunters (units 147/148) in 1994 the Swiss Air force hasn't an air-surface aircraft any more. The Replacing Mirage III (149/150/161) and Tiger II (151-153)as well as the F/A-18 (156-158) are or were only in the role as air-air or recon missions air crafts. All three are theoretical capable of Air -Surface Attacks, but the Swiss Air force never bought any Weapons to do so!
In Future when the Tiger will be replaced (~2015) the new Aircraft will be possible equipment with air-surface weapons.

So will it be what could be (have the air crafts with possible air to surface missiles) or should it be "realistic"? In that case the Tigers, Mirages and F/A-18 should be removed.
The Mirage could then only stay as a air OP aircraft...
In case of the game balance (you need air-surface supporting air crafts) remove at least the Maverick and CBU and use only Swiss weapons (that would be quit realistic)

[PlasmaKrab]

Pats,

I have no idea how the Swiss air force works, but don't they have some kind of stocks of basic air-to-ground weaponry that could be brought up in case of extended conflict? Like dumb bombs or rocket pods? I have trouble imagining F-5s serving as interceptors only.
In the worst case, even interceptors can strafe ground targets with their guns...

[Pats]

That's probebly exactly what they would have to do if they had to strike ground targets. But old rockets and dumb bombs wouldn't do much damage to an Abrams or Leopard tank.
A far mor effective way to destroy tanks "en mass" is a good artillery; and the swiss is not the worst artillery you can have. In fact I would say it's probebly one of the most effective in the world. So what you need bombers for, if you can strike everything that crosses your border with 5-10m precission several times each minute with intelligent ammunition and from the top? All you need to do is protect your artillery with a realy good air defense. And that's exactly what the Swiss Air Force (that includes by the way the air defense systems like the Rapier (Mark Two - where is that in the game any way?) as well) is trained for; intercept and destroy hostile airplanes.

[DRG]

"Pats".. are you still checking this forum?

Don

[Pats]

ah, yes why, did I miss something
oh, I just noticed the message, but I couldn't reply

I'm still working on the OOB; espacially the weapon names. Some more trucks and other vehicles.
And I'm still trying to get the Para troops right - they are mainly para scouts (Fallschirmaufklärer) and heavy para infantry (Grenadier)

How can I send you my "details" if I can't replpy the message?

[DRG]

Just click on my name ( DRG ) then, when the new screen appears click on " Send a private message " then send me you home email address and we'll get started

If that doesn't work let me know and we'll go to "Plan B" The OOB is very good but there are "problems" we need to deal with

Don

[Pats]

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[DRG]

OK, Try again. I reset that option

Don

[Pats]

there will be an updadet oob in the 3.5 patch, that's why I don't post any new verions at the moment...