Tien Chi - why no "immortal" pretender?

[shovah]

i was told (and have now learnt) that heros do not count as a random event but having luck 3 makes your chance of getting heros very high (compared to luck 0)

[Truper]

B0rsuk said:
Is this possible to play Tien Chi _effectively_ and still be able to get one of national heroes ?

Both Barbarian Kings and Spring and Autumn require Turmoil. They are likely to compensate for this by taking a Luck scale. They will tend to get the national heroes quite soon. Both can be played effectively, although in the unmodded game, Barbarian Kings is somewhat underpowered. The base theme prefers order, and will therefore often take misfortune to get points. They'll tend to get the heroes much more slowly. However, the base theme isn't a good candidate for a bless strategy, and might not require an expensive pretender. One might choose not to mine misfortune for points, hoping for help from the heroes.

[shovah]

and of course with spring and autumn you can go with almost any bless startegy you want as you mages can provide huge magical versatility and you have good sacreds

[Zooko]

I love playing Tien Chi with Turmoil 3 and Luck 3. I also take Sloth 3, Heat 3, Death 3, and pile all the points into Magic 3 and a double-major blessing (level 9 or 10).

Whether this is effective or not is unclear. Anybody want to challenge me to a 1-vs-1 quick match on Clash of the Titans? :-)

[Sammas]

I think you might find it tough against a high dominion nation on CoT.

[Truper]

With those settings, I'd expect it to be hard against any nation at all.

[Zooko]

Okay, buster! Bring it on! Oh wait -- I'm leaving town for ten days. I challenge you to a duel in December!

[Truper]

All right. If your divine wrath is still hot in December, we'll duel.

[shovah]

but then again with his sacred armys not needing food or money those scales suddenly seem quite good since he has a good chance of random gems, i can think of a few ways to steamroll him though

[Ironhawk]

My money is on Trup, of course. He can just play his own, well-known, bless strategy that will most likely win. But I'm curious to see how well Zooko fares.