OT Do you care were the products you buy are made

[DavidG]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Your fisheries might have closed down because they were exhausted (too few fish), not because there was a lack of demand, DavidG.

Where do you think the Chinese are getting fish from? Can't our boats go there?

[ January 14, 2004, 02:51: Message edited by: DavidG ]

[Phoenix-D]

[quote]Originally posted by DavidG:

Where do you think the Chinese are getting fish from? Can't our boats go there?

If they're inside Chinese territorial waters, no. Notice you also said east coast fisheries- having to go down to Panama THEN cross to where the Chinease fishermen are fishing isn't going to be profitable.

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
There is a lot of cheap stuff made in Taiwan, Korea and Japan sold in the US (at least around southern California). Not as much comes from China that I have noticed though. Although, I could really care less where stuff was made (as long as it works well, and is not shoddy ).

After spending a year in Korea, and seeing a Goldstar repair truck coming to the base every week, I don't buy any Korean electronic products. And that's been almost 16 years now. If it weren't for the fact that if I didn't buy anything made in China, my kid would have no toys at all, then I wouldn't buy stuff made in China. I don't know about the rest of the world, but it seems that America is spending a huge amount of cash to put into China's coffers, and I doubt very much that it goes to the people. We may be financing China's military, and that will come back to bite us eventually. So that's why I'm leary of anything that says "Made in China". Unfortunatley, there aren't too many alternatives if you don't want to spend a lot of money.

[TerranC]

After spending a year in Korea, and seeing a Goldstar repair truck coming to the base every week, I don't buy any Korean electronic products.

They have improved with time you know.

I don't know about the rest of the world, but it seems that America is spending a huge amount of cash to put into China's coffers, and I doubt very much that it goes to the people. We may be financing China's military, and that will come back to bite us eventually. So that's why I'm leary of anything that says "Made in China". Unfortunatley, there aren't too many alternatives if you don't want to spend a lot of money.

You ARE financing china's military. No doubt about it; the communist party's having a field day with all this newfound money. I think they bought a couple of new subs with the capital too.

[ January 14, 2004, 04:11: Message edited by: TerranC ]

[Baron Grazic]

I buy "Australian owned" and "Made in Australia" when I can, but only if the product is of a quality and price equal to or better then the alternative.

The thing that ticks me off, is we supply raw metal to Asia, then they turn it in car parts and ship them back and the cars are assembeled here and they give the impression that the Cars are "Made in Australia".

Mind you, being a stock holder in some Australian companies, as long as they give me a good return on my money, I don't care how the company is run.

[rextorres]

I make a point of not buying anything made in China or a third world country unless I don't have a choice.

[Ruatha]

I try to buy as much local as possible, mostly food from the local region, vegetables and meat and such, hard to buy local bananas and oranges in Sweden though!

If clothes and stuff are made in Sweden, the scandinavia, balticum , europe or africa I try to choose those first, in that order, mainly as to minimize transports but also other reasons.

I have nothing against goods made in USA/Canada/China/India or wherever.

Somehow I tend to mentally kind of prefer the nordic culture, diverse as it is (Scandinavia, parts of Russia and Canada), this sometimes influences me when I buy stuff, but not often.

(Edit: Rextorres > I try to buy stuff from third world countries if I have the choice ,and if am feeling more political than enviromental that day!. )

And when it comes to wine I prefer german wine, becouse of the taste, but I buy good french wine too.

[ January 14, 2004, 05:14: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[Narrew]

Originally posted by Ruatha:
prefer the nordic culture, diverse as it is (Scandinavia, parts of Russia and Canada),

I hope not French Canada hehe, J/K everyone, well if I had to vote which part of Canada could be part of the US, I would take the western half, sorry

[rextorres]

Originally posted by Narrew:
Like Fyron said, as long as it works and is not shoddy, I don't worry about it, I would think twice if was French made, but I don't drink wine and thats all I can think of that they sell that I would buy (yes, my reason is political, but thats just me).

As far as everything from China *sigh*, thats the way it seems, I notice alot of JOBs going to India, nothing against India or any other country, but I wonder how long companis will do that till they smarten up and pull those jobs back here?

I think from political stand point China is a lot more noxious than France.

I understand why some people don't like France - but China was right behind it on the Iraq issue -France just took the lead.

France doesn't let it's corporations run defacto work camps and dump untreated toxic waste into the environment. Not to mention that China is an authoritarian regime.

Anyway all those jobs lost are never coming back until American workers are willing to live in the same conditions that workers of third world countries live OR we force any corporation that sells in the U.S. to provide their workers with the same wages and follow the same environmental laws that we expect them to have here.

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by rextorres:
I think from political stand point China is a lot more noxious than France.

I understand why some people don't like France - but China was right behind it on the Iraq issue -France just took the lead.

France doesn't let it's corporations run defacto work camps and dump untreated toxic waste into the environment. Not to mention that China is an authoritarian regime.

Anyway all those jobs lost are never coming back until American workers are willing to live in the same conditions that workers of third world countries live OR we force any corporation that sells in the U.S. to provide their workers with the same wages and follow the same environmental laws that we expect them to have here.

They can come back the day when third world countries have the same standard as the I-world nations..
Last year 30% of the worlds population took the step up from poverty, 17.7 billions now have the same living standard as the "west".