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July 22nd, 2005, 04:34 PM
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Re: What Traits / Tactics are considered cheap/che
Talismans = everybody picking on you just to make sure you can't use it anymore. (That is, I would imagine this would/could happen.) In stock it is waaaay underpriced.
I personally consider taking organic and crystalline (in stock) to be a bad thing - except when fighting only AIs of course Organic Armors can repair the Crystalline Armors as well, and since the Crystallines generate shields with each non-armor-skipping hit, well..... Also, using the specialized weapons from each type (especially Shard Cannon and Crystalline Torpedo (in the early game)) while protecting your ships with this deadly mix of armors makes for the fact that your ships fight like they're a few hundred kT larger.
Side note: When facing an opponent which uses the aforementioned "dirty" tactic, simply make the Null-Space Cannon your primary weapon and place a lot of shields and no armor on your ships, and watch his ships die like flies.....
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July 22nd, 2005, 04:44 PM
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Re: What Traits / Tactics are considered cheap/che
Um, I thought organic armors only regenerated other organic armors, since they're the only armor which has the regeneration ability...
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July 24th, 2005, 08:38 AM
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For personal use, yes. I have done such a thing myself once. Nothing wrong with it.
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Um, I thought organic armors only regenerated other organic armors, since they're the only armor which has the regeneration ability...
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Nope. Armor regen regenerates all armor on the ship. In Adamant, Organic races with Inherent Regeneration (or something) get an Auxiliary Control (IIRC) component with Armor Regeneration ability, but which does not have the Armor ability itself.
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July 24th, 2005, 08:57 AM
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Re: What Traits / Tactics are considered cheap/che
The Crystalline Armour lacks any regeneration ability, so it won't get regenerated: you must have some sort of regeneration to benefit from the OA ability; whether a component is an armour or not is irrelevant here.
Devnull does have Biocrystal armour though, which acts as the CA, with built-in regeneration, but it's not exactly the same thing (and it is a mod, of course).
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July 24th, 2005, 04:03 PM
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Re: What Traits / Tactics are considered cheap/che
Newbie question, is armor really all that important in the game? From my understanding in most multiplayer games, people use heavy weapon mounts and 150kt of resistance doesn't sound like much. I would think that the space would be better used for extra shields.
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Re: What Traits / Tactics are considered cheap/che
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... [organic] Armor regen regenerates all armor on the ship. ...
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No offense, but I've never noticed this happening. Can anyone confirm this?
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July 27th, 2005, 01:43 PM
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No offense, but I've never noticed this happening. Can anyone confirm this?
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I answered to that a few posts ago, and can confirm it isn't the case in stock. Of course, a mod doing that can easily be created.
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July 27th, 2005, 01:45 PM
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It is wrong. The armor ability is 100% irrelevant for hit point regeneration. All components with the regeneration ability will be regenerated, but no component will ever be regenerated just because it has the armor ability.
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Religious isn't quite the exploit you may think it is. Actually, against the AI it is unbalanced. But in multiplayer games, very often non-religious players will band against a religious player to wipe him out before he gets the Talisman. If he can survive long enough to get the Talisman, the fight is more even, but that doesn't happen very often at all in PBW games.
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Re: What Traits / Tactics are considered cheap/che
That is, until the shield skipping weapons come into play..... or when the enemy weapons get so heavy (*cough*massive-mount-WMG*cough*) that your shields are depleted in a few shots.....
On the whole, it's best to have a good mix of shields and armor, and perhaps some shield regenerators if you've got room. If you're playing stock, however, don't repeat do NOT use emissive armor, as it's useless against everything save for long-ranged shots and (small) fighter attacks.
Hey, I wrote this before Alneyan posted, and clicked "Continue", but apparently it didn't process. Weird. Oh well.
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