.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 3: The Awakening

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old November 18th, 2008, 09:59 AM
vfb's Avatar

vfb vfb is offline
General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Japan
Posts: 3,691
Thanks: 269
Thanked 397 Times in 200 Posts
vfb is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Priests

If you can make a crystal shield, then you can make crystal/slave matrixes, which don't care about paths other than holy. So, just use some of those. They won't bog you down with encumbrance like the shield does either. You really only need 1 crystal matrix if you have any astral mages. What nation are you playing?
__________________
Whether he submitted the post, or whether he did not, made no difference. The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed— would still have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper— the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever.
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old November 18th, 2008, 03:59 PM

MaxWilson MaxWilson is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 2,497
Thanks: 165
Thanked 105 Times in 73 Posts
MaxWilson is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Priests

Hmmm? Crystal Matrixes do care about having real (non-holy) paths. If you aren't a mage, they don't work for you.

To OP: about prophetizing. Note that you can increase your H arbitrarily high by prophetizing multiple times. One way to do this is via Ritual of Rebirth (every time the Prophet dies, RoR him and re-prophetize). KO says this is thematic--a Prophet who comes back from the dead 4 times is obviously holier than a regular old Prophet (H7!). I don't know of any other way to do this other than maybe Charming someone else's Prophet (he keeps his H3) and prophetizing him yourself.

-Max
__________________
Bauchelain - "Qwik Ben iz uzin wallhax! HAX!"
Quick Ben - "lol pwned"

["Memories of Ice", by Steven Erikson. Retranslated into l33t.]
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old November 18th, 2008, 06:06 PM
vfb's Avatar

vfb vfb is offline
General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Japan
Posts: 3,691
Thanks: 269
Thanked 397 Times in 200 Posts
vfb is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Priests

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxWilson View Post
Hmmm? Crystal Matrixes do care about having real (non-holy) paths. If you aren't a mage, they don't work for you.

-Max

Did you test that recently Max? They must have fixed it then, because 1 year ago it was broken:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=37086
__________________
Whether he submitted the post, or whether he did not, made no difference. The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed— would still have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper— the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever.
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old November 18th, 2008, 10:33 PM
theshadow's Avatar

theshadow theshadow is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
theshadow is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Priests

thx all

After playing sp, then reading posts, it had me a wee bit confused. Thought I was missing something.
__________________
"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!"
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old November 18th, 2008, 11:02 PM

MaxWilson MaxWilson is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 2,497
Thanks: 165
Thanked 105 Times in 73 Posts
MaxWilson is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Priests

Quote:
Originally Posted by vfb View Post
Did you test that recently Max? They must have fixed it then, because 1 year ago it was broken:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=37086
Mmm, no, I haven't recently. I tried it long ago... come to think of it, what I actually remember testing is that you can't use regular old priests or indy scouts as *slaves*. I didn't test them as *masters*.

[Two minutes later] And... you're right. Crystal matrix on an H1 priest lets him cast multiple H1 spells per round. Fatigue from communion masters is not spread to H1 communion priests even if they have a Slave Matrix, so they don't participate in communions for fatigue-pooling purposes. I didn't check this time whether H1 slaves participate for path-boosting purposes, but as I recall they don't. So, interesting.

-Max
__________________
Bauchelain - "Qwik Ben iz uzin wallhax! HAX!"
Quick Ben - "lol pwned"

["Memories of Ice", by Steven Erikson. Retranslated into l33t.]
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old November 19th, 2008, 12:02 AM
vfb's Avatar

vfb vfb is offline
General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Japan
Posts: 3,691
Thanks: 269
Thanked 397 Times in 200 Posts
vfb is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Priests

It doesn't just let them cast multiple H1 spells per round. They get the full communion boost. So your H1 with 4 slaves can cast 4 smites per round. It always seems to cast 4 per round, as long as you have at least 2 slaves. Of course, with only 2 slaves an H1 can only cast H2 spells.
__________________
Whether he submitted the post, or whether he did not, made no difference. The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed— would still have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper— the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever.
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old November 19th, 2008, 12:15 AM

Trumanator Trumanator is offline
BANNED USER
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Tacoma WA, USA
Posts: 1,314
Thanks: 103
Thanked 72 Times in 50 Posts
Trumanator is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Priests

This makes me think that it would be kind of a cool idea to have a nation with lots of E and S magic and have a human commander with reinvig 5 or something as a communion slave.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old November 19th, 2008, 12:41 AM
vfb's Avatar

vfb vfb is offline
General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Japan
Posts: 3,691
Thanks: 269
Thanked 397 Times in 200 Posts
vfb is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Priests

I think it's not intentional (4 casts per round for a communion-boosted holy-only priest), so it's pretty much an exploit if you choose to do it.

And I'm not sure what you mean by "human commander". Communion slaves need at least one non-holy magic path (except Pythium communicants).

Slaves usually rack up fatigue pretty fast so reinvig 5 is not going to help a whole lot, and there's probably better things you can use your gems for.
__________________
Whether he submitted the post, or whether he did not, made no difference. The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed— would still have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper— the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever.
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old November 19th, 2008, 05:48 AM
Endoperez's Avatar

Endoperez Endoperez is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Eastern Finland
Posts: 7,110
Thanks: 145
Thanked 153 Times in 101 Posts
Endoperez is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Priests

Pythium communicants are sacred, so Pythium with E10 pretender is pretty much that.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old November 19th, 2008, 02:02 PM
Bwaha's Avatar

Bwaha Bwaha is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 855
Thanks: 107
Thanked 28 Times in 21 Posts
Bwaha is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Priests

Please mention this on "Exploits, New and Used". Thanks.
__________________
Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.
Oscar Wilde

He who laughs last didn't get the joke.
Saber

Alcohol and calculus don't mix. Never drink and derive.

Socrates used to say, the best form of government was that in which the people obeyed their rulers, and the rulers obeyed the laws.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.