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September 2nd, 2006, 12:24 PM
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Re: Dom3 MP is still Supercombatant based?
The only reason SCs got so much use in Dom2 is because people didnt make good use of stealth armies. Personally I loved playing against people that relied on SCs.
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September 2nd, 2006, 01:02 PM
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Lieutenant General
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Re: Dom3 MP is still Supercombatant based?
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Gandalf Parker said:
The only reason SCs got so much use in Dom2 is because people didnt make good use of stealth armies. Personally I loved playing against people that relied on SCs.
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Especially QM and Arch always abused stealth troops as well in Dom2 .
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September 2nd, 2006, 01:21 PM
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Re: Dom3 MP is still Supercombatant based?
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I would have liked if Invulnerability would have for example nullified the effects of Quickness or lowered MR or such because many SC's are going to be poison immune anyway...
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There isn't such thing as immunity.
The unit may have 100% resistance - which will be lowererd by casting invulnerabilty.
Don't ask me how much, don't know off the top of my head. Expect 25-50% reduction.
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September 2nd, 2006, 01:29 PM
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General
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Re: Dom3 MP is still Supercombatant based?
Invulnerability: Poison susceptibility +100
Iron skin: Shock susceptibility +75
Stone skin: Cold susceptibility +50
Bark skin: Fire susceptibility +25
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September 2nd, 2006, 05:48 PM
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Re: Dom3 MP is still Supercombatant based?
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And when i called back my god he was still horror marked, so he got killed again the turn i called him back .
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IS there any way to get rid of the marks ever?
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September 2nd, 2006, 06:48 PM
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Major
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Re: Dom3 MP is still Supercombatant based?
Actually I think that there wasnt a problem with SCs. Sure 1 SC can murderize a regular army easily, but even though this is a fantasy game, it is "realistic" if we can say that. Just imagine... a mighty demon with a flaming sword enters to your province, what is guarded by 15 human swordsmen. I guess that creature wouldnt have any problems killing everything what moves in seconds.
Anyways just 1 word: modding. It is possible to totally remove all SCs from the game if you want.
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September 2nd, 2006, 07:12 PM
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Re: Dom3 MP is still Supercombatant based?
Don't think I like the idea of quickness not helping mages anymore. I always thought that was a cool feature.
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September 2nd, 2006, 08:06 PM
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Re: Dom3 MP is still Supercombatant based?
I agree with ioticus, and it's nice to have buffs that help spellcasters in way other than keeping them alive (path boost spells are cool too) but it was kind of overpowering. Not so much on say an initiate of the deep, since they fatigue themselves over 100 really quick that often its like 4 spells in 2 rounds as opposed to 4 spells in 4 rounds, but on like a water random sea king... you could go quickness, ice strike, ice strike, ice strike, ice strike, cast spells, and he would cast a LOT of spells before he passed out. Still, I have faith they'll be enough new stuff to more than make up for it.
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September 2nd, 2006, 08:20 PM
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Lieutenant General
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Re: Dom3 MP is still Supercombatant based?
Hm Quickness would not be very useful now anymore anyways normally. Because Relief got changed a lot too.
Now Relief is a hard to cast battlefield wide spell that reduces your fatigue 10-20 points or so each battleround.
Relief is 5n to cast and needs 1 nature gem.
Imho this change was necessary though. Relief was just too uber and everybody tried to abuse it in Dom2 .
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September 2nd, 2006, 08:34 PM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: Dom3 MP is still Supercombatant based?
I didn't think Quickness allowing mages to cast 2 spells per round was overpowered, because it was balanced by the fact that they gained a lot of fatigue. Now that Relief was hit with a huge nerf bat, allowing Quickness to help mages would be even less powerful, but still useful and cool, IMHO.
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