lantern shield - Page 2

Twan · #11 December 18th, 2007, 03:15 PM

I remember a game where the eyeloss effect worked with an eye shield on a SC paralyzed before melee, so I've difficulties to believe it's based on defense (or there is a bug somewhere).

Baalz · #12 December 18th, 2007, 03:28 PM

If you've got access to blood, shield of the accursed is one of my favs. One of (the? don't remember) best defense boosts, great protection, and if a SC wails away at you for awhile he's gonna be horror marked to hell even if he wins.

PyroStock · #13 December 18th, 2007, 03:38 PM

The flagellant's flails don't ignore shields, but it was my understanding the magic forged flails/morningstars (Star of Heroes, Evening Star & Star of Thalrdom) still do. Edit: Although looking at Edi's DB there's nothing I see to suggest that.

Anyone know why Belial the Demon Lord's flail requires two hands for this size6 demon to hold if it has the same 3 damage as a regular one-handed flagellant's flail?

FAJ · #14 December 18th, 2007, 04:05 PM

I thought Belial's flail gave him a heratic bonus?

PyroStock · #15 December 18th, 2007, 04:32 PM

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I thought Belial's flail gave him a heratic bonus?

The heratic thing sounds like Belphagor the Demon Lord. I believe Belial himself increases unrest and Edi's database shows he can "corrupt commander" too. Belial's flail has curse luck, which is what interested me about it. It's possible it's WAD, but I was just surprised seeing the 2-handed flail at 3damage since non-magic 2-handed wands/staffs are 3 damage along with non-magic 1-handed flails.

FAJ · #16 December 18th, 2007, 05:35 PM

Yeah, I confused the two. I am always disappointed when Buer doesnt show up.

Ewierl · #17 December 18th, 2007, 06:27 PM

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PyroStock said:
The flagellant's flails don't ignore shields, but it was my understanding the magic forged flails/morningstars (Star of Heroes, Evening Star & Star of Thalrdom) still do. Edit: Although looking at Edi's DB there's nothing I see to suggest that.

I thought I read somewhere that in Dom3, they were +2 attack vs. shields. Can't back up my statement with sources, though...

PyroStock · #18 December 18th, 2007, 07:05 PM

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Ewierl said:

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PyroStock said:
The flagellant's flails don't ignore shields, but it was my understanding the magic forged flails/morningstars (Star of Heroes, Evening Star & Star of Thalrdom) still do. Edit: Although looking at Edi's DB there's nothing I see to suggest that.

I thought I read somewhere that in Dom3, they were +2 attack vs. shields. Can't back up my statement with sources, though...

I cannot back up mine either & since I cannot find anything to confirm my initial premise in Edi's DB you're probably right & all flails are treated the same.