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Old September 1st, 2007, 07:54 PM

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Default Re: Rangefinder values how are they determined?

Hello panzerbob,
Yes that would make sense, after all snipers have a high rangefinder value, this I guess reflects training.
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Old September 21st, 2007, 07:05 AM

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Default Re: Rangefinder values how are they determined?

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Obviously a main gunsights magnification (5x or 2x, etc) is too low to be very useful to estimate range also. So it doesnt matter if they have 5 mil graduations. ie Fabio is correct.
I do not understand. Look at Tiger sight at Fprado site. Tiger uses 4 mil intervals between markings, Sherman uses 5 mil intervals between markings. Not very big difference.

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Heres some info on sherman and tiger gunsights, seems the tigers gunner has a better field of view than the sherman gunners. Not sure why you think its the other way around?
Sherman gunner has 2 sights and a periscope. Tiger only has 1 sight.

So Sherman gunner had (late war, but earlier same in principle):

- M71D Telescope sight 5x 13°
- M10 Periscope sight 6x 11°
- M10 Periscope 1x 42°

So, much better view field and many more options for Sherman gunner.

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Old September 29th, 2007, 10:32 AM

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Default Re: Rangefinder values how are they determined?

Hi Nox
you can use the german sight to gauge a mill or even less read
http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/TIGE...tigerfibel.pdf
ie a target that is the width of the middle of the large triangle ie in line with the bottoms of the adjacent small 2 mill triangles (or at the base of one of the small triangles) is 2 mils wide half way up again gives you 1 mil half again gives you half mill etc if you are trained to use the sight it is obviously far better than a set of lines 5 mil apart.
The difference between a 4 mil and a 5 mil graduation is 20 percent 1 mil and 5 mil 80 percent. (a big difference)
Yes shermans 42 degrees field of view is better than tigers 25 but at 1x magnification wouldnt you just pop your head out of the tank? In any case the tiger commander has 360 degree periscopic view and its his job to aquire targets not the gunners. The gunners there to hit them which is why he only needs one sight. Looking at the Sherman gunners actual sights apparently he can choose between a - M71D Telescope sight 5x 13° or a - M10 Periscope sight 6x 11° both are inferior to the tigers 2.5x magnification / 25° Field of View or 5x magnification / 14° Field of View in the ONE sight. Why would the sherman bother with two nearly identicle sights in the one tank anyway?

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