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Old December 4th, 2001, 12:33 PM
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I don't live in the US, so is the rebate available here in Australia? From your words it sounded like a "yes", but unless the cheque is drawn on a local bank I can't see how I can redeem it.


Uhhh, good point. I thought we had thought of everything, but it can cost alot just to cash a check from another country. How about if we offer an option for a $15.00 coupon to our store. Would that help? We thought about just giving a credit back on your charge card, but each transaction like this costs us about $3.00. We could offer to credit your card for $12.00 in place of the check? What do you think of these ideas?

Oh, and yes, the offer is good to anyone, anywhere that has the CD.
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Another thing that can be done, providing thier bank doesn't overcharge for it, is to open up accounts in a bank in each country. start it with maybe 20 bucks. Then you can transfer money to it then give them a check.


It will cost you a fortune to transfer money overseas, and many banks require you to open the account in person.

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How about if we offer an option for a $15.00 coupon to our store. Would that help? We thought about just giving a credit back on your charge card, but each transaction like this costs us about $3.00. We could offer to credit your card for $12.00 in place of the check?


I'd rather take the $12 than the $15 coupon. There is no garantee that I'll be interested in another Shrapnel game. What's worst, buying a game from the US from my place (Australia) means almost 100% inflation on the price - for shipping, credit card charges etc. SEIV costed me a fortune compared to an off-the-shelf game here, and an off-the-shelf game here costs twice as much again compared to the same product brought from places like Hong Kong (I'm talking about legal originals of cause!). So you get my feeling.

What's stopping you guys from taking that $15 off the purchase price? We can provide some prove of purchase, anything BUT a piece of the CD... I just don't feel nice doing THAT! And what about an UPGRADE Version that requires the original during installation? I've bought a very expensive 747 instrument simulator that did exactly that when a new Version came out.

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Old December 4th, 2001, 03:44 PM
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I'm for the $12 rebate on my credit card - it will cover the shipping cost for me.

Space Empires IV was the Last computer game I bought - Last January - so if it has been that good, I'm sure you guys deserve the extra cash for the Gold Edition.

I just can't wait to February!
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Default Re: SEIV GOLD Rebate

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Originally posted by Puke:
you got a signed copy? when were they offering those?

MMs in SF, yeah? Think I could get my CD signed if i knocked on their door? Think it would help if i brought burgers and beer?



They were offering those when we finished the beta testing phase. Now, I can't say if Aaron would sign your copy if you showed up on his doorstep, but I think anyone that has a signed copy right now was a beta tester at some point.
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Old December 4th, 2001, 07:39 PM
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Just a thought, PayPal now has an international option. For over-seas gamers, it might be worth looking into. Basically free for the Users and I think a business only pays a low percentage rate. I've used them in the past for CONUS purchases and have been very happy with the results.
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Hi to all.
It's nice to hear of the extended features of SE 4. But as with all purchases from the USA to Europe (Germany in my case). They are very expansive and a little bit uncertain!!!

There are 3 big points on rebate and shipping related items.

1) Not all Online purchases reach the customer and it is a heck to locate, track and then get the item if it has been lost in shipping. If you get it at all !!! (It's not that uncommon)

2) The shipping cost !! SE 4 was the first game i
bought Online (no other way to get it)and after the customs opened the package it cost me around
USD 75,00. I had it ordered through chips and bits
as they had the lowest shipping costs.

3)not everyone has a credit card or is willing to
order with the card on the internet. in my case i order usually through friends. and therefore there is no direct proof i ordered the game.

as of this i ask shrapnell to think of a way to:

a) consider the outside of usa purchases in their
offer on rebate. i think the 12,00 usd option
on a credit card will be better for many
europeans than a check.

b) is there any other way to not !! sent the
original cd to get a rebate, as i do not want
to lose it if the shipping is lost.

shrapnell can set up a thread to get information
on shipping time, end cost for customer etc.
for overseas purchases just to get a feeling for the problem.

as there may be probably no way for me to get a rebate i would very much like more detailed
information on the added items.
will this be possible ?? (for example some excerpts from the new manual would be very nice,
more details on new graphics, capabilities)
will the pdf file be downloadable also ?
hopefully nobody will be bored to death by now.
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Old December 4th, 2001, 08:22 PM
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Manual. Did someone say manual!

This is a work in progress, so don't take it as golden. The manual will be in the 150 page range (as of right now) when completed and will have to be perfect bound (glued binding) due to its size. I know this isn't much, but maybe it will help those trying to decide what to do about GOLD. The manual is being written by Mark Walker, who has numberous game strategy guides and industry books to his credit including the just released "The Video Game Almanac." The manual will be something all will want!


Space Empires IV: User Manual Outline

Introduction

· About Space Empires IV
· A Brief Overview
· Quick Start

Getting Started

· System Requirements
· Installing the Game
· Additional Documentation

A Day in the Life of a Galactic Emperor
Walks the player through three or four turns of play. This is not a tutorial-like walkthrough, but rather a general description of the flow of play, and the choices made in the first few turns.

Game Interface

· The Startup Screen
· New Game Screen
· Scenario
· Quick Start
· Load
· Resume Game
· Tutorial
· Credits
· Quit Game

The Main Game Screen

· System Window
· Selection Window
· Galaxy Window
· Interface Selections-includes an overview of the following buttons. I intend to describe the Planets, Colonies, Ships or Units, Construction Queues, Empire Status, Help, Next ship/fleet/planet, selections in depth. I intend to briefly describe Designs, Research, and Empires, because I plan to go into depth on them later in the manual.
· Planet and Ship Interface Selections Consists of a nut and bolt examination of the selections available when ships and/or planets are selected.

Designs

Includes an explanation of all the selections available on the Designs screen. Special attention will be given to explaining exactly how to design a ship and unit.
· Design Screen Selections
· Ship and Unit Design

Production and Research

Describes how to research and produce. Describes all the selections on both the research and planet production screens.
· Research
· Production

Combat

Describes combat options. Special attention will be given to explaining how the player manages tactical combat, and how his or her choices affect the combat’s outcome.

Diplomacy

In-depth explanation of diplomacy, and each species in Space Empires IV.
· Diplomacy
· The Races of Space Empires IV

Editor and Player Add-ons

Details the Space Empires IV Editor and the user add-ons included on the Space Empires IV: Gold Edition ROM.

Appendices

*Hotkey and Attribute Icon List

Lists the Hotkeys and the attribute icons.

*Troubleshooting

*The credits.
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Thanks for the reply. :-))
I know it is currently in development.But seems nice so far.
When are some sections done could there be
some examples to be seen Online ?? Just to get a feel for it.
As a suggestion, can there be added some how to's
with example setups on strategic combat or other ??
I have seen nice ones in this forum but they were to fragmented for myself and my limited time to really use them. maybe they can be compiled
as with the mods to be included, at least as a txt-file. i am pretty sure the authors of them would feel honored to be included.
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Default Re: SEIV GOLD Rebate

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The manual is being written by Mark Walker...


I think that a PDF Version of this manual would be very interesting. I use to print a copy of my favorite games manuals and use the copy instead of the original. Sometimes i even print or copy portions to make a mini-manual or reference cards, and SE4 is the most complex game i've ever played.

BTW, i think this is the best addition.
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Another thing that can be done, providing thier bank doesn't overcharge for it, is to open up accounts in a bank in each country. start it with maybe 20 bucks. Then you can transfer money to it then give them a check.

Just an idea.

EDIT-
Another stupid thought. Money Orders. any bank that charges a person to deposit a money order is not a real bank, just a criminal organization.

EDIT 2-
My spelling sucks!
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