Archers,Precision & Shields

[Nikelaos]

perhaps i've been proven wrong nvm my mistake.

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by SlipperyJim

Now that's interesting. So if my base Prot value is high enough, I won't get poisoned by (for example) Tritons with Coral Spears?

I believe so. I know that in my test of poisoned daggers vs infantry with no shields and heavy armour, the only time they had poison damage was when they had taken regular damage too.

Shield parries can block poison damage in melee, but not from poisoned arrows?

Correct.

[Tifone]

Still hoping (hey, just hoping, not a crime) for some lil' fix on that personally

[Gregstrom]

I think AN missiles might ignore shields though?

[Edi]

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

The Banefire's Decay effect is AOE, and will trigger whether the bolt is parried or not, so all units within that AOE will have to perform MR check against it.

Banefire bow (that longdead archers have) is different from the banefire spell and banefire crossbow. The banefire bow decay does not have an AOE effect, but it is resistible by MR.

[Endoperez]

Originally Posted by Gregstrom

I think AN missiles might ignore shields though?

The formula for checking if an arrow hits is something like this:
If (2*shield parry value) is higher than (random roll), the missile hit is negated.

Could someone provide the page number, or the actual formula? I don't have my manual (or even Dom3) here.

I'm not sure which ranged weapons aren't affected by shields, but AFAIK Boulders thrown by Jotun units can be blocked by Hide Shields wielded by unarmoured Machakan Spearmen.

[vfb]

Originally Posted by Endoperez

The formula for checking if an arrow hits is something like this:
If (2*shield parry value) is higher than (random roll), the missile hit is negated.

Could someone provide the page number, or the actual formula? I don't have my manual (or even Dom3) here.

I'm not sure which ranged weapons aren't affected by shields, but AFAIK Boulders thrown by Jotun units can be blocked by Hide Shields wielded by unarmoured Machakan Spearmen.

page 77:

Attacker (missile) DRN: DRN + (size points in square) + (2 if magic missile)
Defender DRN: DRN + 2 + (shield parry * 2) - (fatigue / 20)

I always thought AoE missiles like the boulder (and AN missiles too) ignored shields, but I never tested either.

[Illuminated One]

Boulders are not AEO as far I can tell.

[Tifone]

Yep, boulders AoE sounded strange to me too. I used those heavily in Principe and never seemed to kill more than one enemy each one thrown.

[JimMorrison]

AoE boulders would be sweeeeet.


And thanks Edi, I'm not sure why I omitted the word "crossbow", I guess I assumed the others worked the same (only time I used the archers, I had a bazillion of them, couldn't tell if it was AoE effect or not).