Defending your candles - Page 2

WraithLord · #1 October 24th, 2008, 06:11 PM

Enemy dominion can have negative effects as Baalz has elaborated. Its possible to make dominion kills and in-fact I have done so a couple of times in MP. Its a good strat. when the enemy doesn't control many provinces but does have some nasty armies/SCs that you don't or can't deal with at the moment.
Also, some enemy dominions hurt real bad, worst example that comes to mind is LA R'lyeh.

vfb · #2 October 24th, 2008, 09:35 PM

It's a psychological thing with me. I just cannot stand the sight of a red candle in my lands!

Jim, I agree. I've used a bunch of H-1's to counter a red candle and ended up with 3 or 4 white candles that were very unlikely to have come as a result of temple checks. So if Dom is low enough for an H-1 to preach, I think it works best to whack a whole bunch in the province and do it all together. Otherwise you'll end up with just 2 candles and H-1s won't be able to do anything more without a temple.

Illuminated One · #3 October 25th, 2008, 01:03 AM

For temples it's better to have them close to the borders that are in danger of getting enemy dominion.
For temples I think it works like this:
If the province with the temple doesn't get the dominion a random province next to the temple is the selected and checked for dominion increase. If the check fails a random neighbouring province is selected.
The same check is done again and if that fails another random province is selected and so forth.
That means the farther away your temples are from your borders the more checks have to fail and the possibility that the dominions goes in the wrong direction increases.

That said you might also want to look at the connections the province with the temple has. More connections outward than inward means a higher chance of of dominion going outward instead of inward.

Illuminated One · #4 November 9th, 2008, 07:03 PM

If you are preaching in a province with an enemy temple (either through stealthy preachers or a priest besieging a castle) do you get the bonus from the temple?

Trumanator · #5 November 9th, 2008, 09:19 PM

I seriously doubt it, but IDK.

archaeolept · #6 November 10th, 2008, 05:45 AM

you should not, but it is quite possible

Agema · #7 November 11th, 2008, 07:24 AM

I think Jim's right that priests can raise a province above their theoretical maximum. Presumably the game is letting them all check based on the initial dom, rather than checking one by one and stopping when the max is reached. I've not tested this, just thought so anecdotally.

I'd see temple dominion as a spreading plant, like kudzu. You don't really control it much, it goes creeps dominion along everywhere. The advantages of friendly Dom are listed above by others, and hence you might view some provinces as "key" ones that it's best to convert quickly. My suggestion is letting your temples do the generalised advance, whilst having one or two "firefighting" squads of H2/H3 (H1 if you've nothing better) priests to work on key provinces where necessary.

VedalkenBear · #8 November 11th, 2008, 03:53 PM

I don't exactly have my book with me, but IIRC, preaching has a 30% chance of success per Holy level. I don't recall if preaching suffers the 'enemy dominion penalty' that is associated with temple checks, but I don't think it does.

I'll write a simple simulation program to find out answers to some questions, and put the results here.