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Mephisto · #11 August 17th, 2003, 11:17 PM

Can you post what race produces the error and one line of the error as an example? Thanks!

Bonefish · #12 August 18th, 2003, 01:40 AM

Hmmm...ok.....

So...if a shipset has no ai, it uses the default..so....if I switch on a minister, wouldnt THAT default to a standard ai too?

Secondly, If I bought the gold disc, and updated with the latest tdm pack v3.30, then surely my default ai's would be gold?

Bonefish · #13 August 18th, 2003, 02:57 AM

ok. heres a piccy of the errors...

Can Anyone shed some light on this, cos Ive been stopped from conquering the universe and its very annoying.

Ming never had this trouble. He only had flash gordon and those flying beardy blokes to worry about.....

Bonefish · #14 August 18th, 2003, 03:16 AM

Had another thought.
The cut and paste theory would work, but only if I HAD a default gold set to cut FROM, in which case I wouldnt have the problem in the first place. Its no good cutting and pasting from another race, as thats not default! (my head hurts now...)

ok, can anyone send me a set of DEFAULT GOLD AI please? Preferably the updated ones that were done/adjusted/improved? (although its these Ive added from the tdm v3.30 and have seemed to messed things up.)

From what I can tell, I think I should overwrite the default ai, and the ai's in the three folders within the main ai folder.

Arkcon · #15 August 18th, 2003, 04:00 PM

You need Gold AI files for a race to be included in a game of SE4 Gold. You have a cool shipset, or you made one, or you downloaded a pre-Gold TDM modpack race, or something like that.

You need Gold AI text files, and you can find all of them in the default install of SE4 Gold, or in the latest TDM Modpack Version.

You can use the patcher on a race that had a pre-Gold AI. You can just copy any AI from the SE4 Gold directory for your "do it yourself" shipset.

trooper · #16 August 18th, 2003, 04:20 PM

Right. All you got to do is get one of the AI_settings.txt file in your pictures/races/ directory (choose one of the stock race, to avoid any compatibility pb), copy it into your new race folder and rename it to myrace_AI_settings.txt.

Bonefish · #17 August 18th, 2003, 05:07 PM

Ok guys.

Dont know if you saw the earlier Posts, but I already copied the latest TDM default ai's, and that didnt work. I can also start a game with my race and 10 other, all under compuiter comtrol, with no probs. Its only if I leave the "let computer randomly generate races" that I get the errors.

Any other ideas guys?
Ive downloaded and installed 109 new shipsets, I REALLY dont want to have to reinstall the whole lot !

Im sure that a shipset can work without its OWN set of ai and its the default ai thats not working, but then why does my own set and all the others play ok?

Damnit this is confusing.

Can anyone send me a set of up to date default gold ai to try? Im under the impression that using a Races ai would be no good for default, as then ANY race that resources those defaults will act like the one I got it from.

Arkcon · #18 August 18th, 2003, 05:09 PM

'Course, if you're really good at AI modding, you would then edit these default AI files, in an attempt to get the AI to behave exactly the way you wanted it to.

The ultimate goal is to have the ministers do the sorts of things you would do.

It's a pretty daunting task.

oleg · #19 August 18th, 2003, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Bonefish:
Ok guys.

Dont know if you saw the earlier Posts, but I already copied the latest TDM default ai's, and that didnt work. I can also start a game with my race and 10 other, all under compuiter comtrol, with no probs. Its only if I leave the "let computer randomly generate races" that I get the errors.

Any other ideas guys?
Ive downloaded and installed 109 new shipsets, I REALLY dont want to have to reinstall the whole lot !

Im sure that a shipset can work without its OWN set of ai and its the default ai thats not working, but then why does my own set and all the others play ok?

Damnit this is confusing.

Can anyone send me a set of up to date default gold ai to try? Im under the impression that using a Races ai would be no good for default, as then ANY race that resources those defaults will act like the one I got it from.

Identify what race produces these Messages. It is obvious one or more of your 109 shipsets have pre-Gold AI. You don't need any extra "default gold AI". Use any of stock or latest TDM races.

But first find the culprit. What race was the Last you installed before the problem appear ? Try to move race folders from pictures/races folder and see if it helps to locate the problem race.

When SE tries to add random race, it goes through AI_settings files of ALL races (I think). If you have just one pre-Gold AI, you will get this problem.

[ August 18, 2003, 16:21: Message edited by: oleg ]

Bonefish · #20 August 18th, 2003, 05:34 PM

Hi Oleg. I think I must have picked up on your thoughts up there in manchester all the way down here in Plymouth.... As Ive just checked in and read your post, and Im already currently going through exactly what youve just suggested!
I took out ALL my race folders and dumped them on the desktop.
Then put back 17 (?) of the defaults.
NO PROBS.

So...
Im now adding each race and testing the game. Very time consuming.
Ive already found a problem with the "Spacesharks".
What I'll do is compile my findings and let you all know (if you all wish to know that is!)

I'll post an update to this asap.

Thanks guys....