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Old October 1st, 2003, 09:04 PM

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Default Mines & Treaties

1) I thought both of the 'yellow' treaties (non-intercourse & non-agression) kept my mine fields active. But, the same turn that an opponent accepted a non-agression treaty proposal of mine I found his ships all over my border systems. The mine fields (at the warp points) were not swept and he could not have come by other routes. What gives?

As a follow on: at what treaty level do players gain access to each other's re-supply depots?

2) Even stanger: A few turns later the same ships were leaving by those same mined warp points. They blew up of course. And, I ended up with a war which should never have happened if the mine fields kept the ships out in the first place.

The strange thing about it is, when the turn opened, I saw his ships just sitting there. Mine fields only activate when a ship moves into the field, right? Maybe in turn based play ships always show up where they stopped Last, even if that's at the point of their demise in a mine field.

3) To clarify how mine damage works (from what I've read):

a) Either a fleet will be completely destroyed and some mines remain, all intact; or, the mine field will be completely used up with some ships remaining, all intact.

b) If damage now accumulates from component to component of a give ship, then all damage from all warheads of a given mine are deducted from a ship's total hit points, with the remainder saved from the Last component damaged (not destoyed) is added to the next random mine hit until that component is destoyed, etc, etc, until that ship is completey destoyed (by random hits if more than one ship) or all mines are expended.

If b) is true then using larger warheads isn't necessary to achieve kills on ships with large components (ie, colony module or certain armor types).

Larger size mines (not warheads) are a benefit if one wishes to pack as much explosive power into the 100 mine sector limit as possible.

Larger mines cost more and take longer to build of course, which may be a consideration if they're going to be swept anyway.

Do I have it or am I still off target?

Thanks for all the info and work on the forum to the regular contributers. This is a rare chance when I actually have the time to write something.
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