OT: Election 2004 - Page 2

Atrocities · #11 March 24th, 2004, 07:05 AM

Very well said CK.

It is a sad day when Canadians know more about the political structure of the USA then most Americans.

Come to think about it, who runs Canada?

Atrocities · #12 March 24th, 2004, 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by Renegade 13:

quote:
Originally posted by Klvino [ORB]:
Militant Canadians, that's just not right.

And since when is self-defense militaristic?

Since the people invading you control the media.

eol · #13 March 24th, 2004, 10:55 AM

ahhh..nothing like a political thread to stir up folks passions. Just some minor comments:

Atrocities quote "However, Iraq had to be delt with before it did become a problem. Of this we can all agree�

I think plenty of people disagree with this statement, myself included. There are bigger threats to the US and the world that Saddam. How about a regime change in Israel or China for one. China is an upcoming superpower, need them nipped in the butt. Put China on a 100 year time line and they will be the new USSR in scope of power. As for Israel, if we just quit supporting their facist regime, we would see a significant decline in the amount of Islamic terrorism directed at the US. Let get realistic here, Iraq posed no threat to US long term interests. No more than Cuba or Libya does. Hell, Canada could do greater damage to the US than Iraq. As the US's largest trading partner, if they closed their borders tomorrow, our economy would collapse. What threat was Iraq ever to us? None. We got Saddam so he couldn't nuke Israel. USA == zionist puppets and has been since the '40's.

But enough of that and on to the bigger issue, the one that forces me to vote for Kerry (I voted for Bush in '00). The DNC is setting Kerry up to lose. They are pushing him solely to make it look like they fought the good fight. The fact is they need him to lose so Hillary can win in '08. We all know the Republicans will not take three terms in a row. If Kerry takes '04, that puts Hillary out of the whitehouse forever. Kerry would rerun in '08. That would push Hillary to '12 if Republicans took '08. If Kerry took '08, would push Hillary out to '16 as no way in hell Democrats would get three terms in a row (ala Gore losing '00 after 8 years of Clinton). Hillary will be to old to run in '16. Kerry winning '04 kills any chance for a presidential bid from her. A vote for Kerry '04 is a vote against Hillary in '08. Vote Kerry.

I don't like Kerry or trust the man, but I despise Hillary. Kerry, like Bush, is a member of Skull and Bones. I find it odd that both the president and democratic front runner belong to the same secret society. From a lifestyle point of view, Bush is better for my economic future. As an Ex-Pat, I could care less about civil liberties or terrorist attacks in the US, I don't live there anymore. Only part of US law that really effects me (or any Ex-Pat for that matter) anymore is US tax law. Bush is very good for that. But sometimes you have to sacrifice for the greater good and keeping Hillary out of the whitehouse is exactly that.

Atrocities · #14 March 24th, 2004, 11:05 AM

eol thanks for posting and offering a counter to my statement.

We will never know the true threat that Iraq could have become thanks to the war and for that I am thankful.

I did not know that both Kerry and Bush were members of this secret society. I thought that to be a myth or some bad hollywood movie.

If the vote were taken today it would be close but I think Bush would win. In six months, I think the outcome might be differant but I hope not.

Thanks again for posting.

dogscoff · #15 March 24th, 2004, 11:37 AM

Vote for whoever you like, Bush will just rig the election again, I'm sure of it.

I really dislike Bush (as you may have noticed) and although I know next to nothing about the other guy I'm sure he couldn't possibly be any worse, but like I always say: "It doesn't matter who you vote for, a politician always wins."

With a very few notable exceptions, all politicians of all parties in all countries are corrupt, soulless, self-serving, bribe-taking, corporate-owned parasitic scum who will happily sell your Grandmother (not their own) to the dog-food factory for the price of a new Bentley and a seat on the board of some bull**** company or advisory board that they set up in office specifically so they and their old school chums could have a nice fat paycheque until retirement. We should burn the lot of 'em (with a few exceptions) and go live in self-sufficient anarcho-syndicalist communes.

And after re-reading that little rant, I've decided I'm never eating dogfood again.

Seriously, apart from Bush being toppled, humiliated and then ritually sacrificed, the one thing I would like to see from you americans on election day is a larger proportion of the votes being cast away from the two big parties. You really need to break this two-party domination of yours.

Atrocities · #16 March 24th, 2004, 11:47 AM

Hey thanks DS for posting. I sincerely doubt that Bush rigged the election however given what happend I can see your point.

Then again, did we really want someone like Gore running the US? Naw, better he come in 2008.

David E. Gervais · #17 March 24th, 2004, 01:45 PM

Want to hear a funny story?

Back in '91 I was on vacation in BC and woke up one beautiful morning and decided to take the short trip to Seattle and visit the city. I don't drive, so I just purchased return fair on the bus shuttle. When I got to the boarder I was refused entry into the US. No reason given, all attempts to find out why they would refuse me ignored. They simply handed me a paper that said "Request to enter US Denied". I had to walk accross the 6 lane highway to the Canadian boarder crossing and use my 'return' ticket to get back to Vancouver. Couldn't get a refund, ($80 down the drain) I have no criminal record, I'm a good decent fellow. I have been to the US several times before. So why was I refused entry? I guess I'll never know.

Wait I just had a thought, perhaps it was a Ticket Scam by Grayhound to rip people off. Or, perhaps there is a Customs law that says that 3 random people from every bus that crosses the boarder must be refused entry. (btw, the two other people refused entry that morning was a older man (in his 50's) and a younger girl about (20-24). They too said they were not given any reason for the 'banishment'.

Yup, very funny story, hillarious, I crack up every time I think of it.

What? US Custom's is not a political issue? Sorry for ranting then,

Cheers!

Unknown_Enemy · #18 March 24th, 2004, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Captain Kwok:
you guys really need a third viable option there rather than republican/democrat all the time!

Hey !
We can send you Chirac for free ! And with him comes a bunch of usel...err..excellent ministers as a gift. Cheap isnt'it ?

geoschmo · #19 March 24th, 2004, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Unknown_Enemy:

quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kwok:
you guys really need a third viable option there rather than republican/democrat all the time!

Hey !
We can send you Chirac for free ! And with him comes a bunch of usel...err..excellent ministers as a gift. Cheap isnt'it ?

I had heard Chirac could be bought, but I didn't know you could get him for free.

Alneyan · #20 March 24th, 2004, 04:56 PM

Not only he can be bought for free, but the whole lot comes at the same price! Yes that's right, a full governement for free! This wonderful deal comes with no string attached, and we are even willing to pay for their transport to Juneau or in another similar place.

Isn't that enough? Well, then, we are even willing to pay if you buy then. You cannot possibly turn down such a generous offer! I mean, they would be about as effective as the vanilla ministers in SE4. How can you have a better reference?