OT- Longhorn

[solops]

Originally posted by PvK:
The "Patriot Act" was when the largest chunk of your freedom in recent memory went away.

PvK

Truth.

[AMF]

"An America that creates a secret police power which can by its secret discretion invade the privacy of Americans and intimidate them is a far cry from what our Founders envisioned and from what we have fought to protect for 228 years.

A country where you are visited by the authorities for thinking or voicing an unpopular idea smacks more of the Taliban than Thomas Jefferson. Trading in our basic rights for the false facade of security is not worth it ? and it is not worthy of a great nation such as America.

We are a nation of laws and liberties, not of a knock in the night. So it is time to end the era of John Ashcroft.

That starts with replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time...."

For the rest of it see:

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/s...2003_1201.html

Sorry, couldn't resist. But this thread had clearly become political already.

Originally posted by solops:

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Originally posted by PvK:
The "Patriot Act" was when the largest chunk of your freedom in recent memory went away.

PvK

Truth.

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[Aiken]

No doubt, close connection between early windoze alpha and political situation in US is obvious

[Markavian]

I don't think those system requirements are unreasonable at all.

And whos going to pay for that top of the range system? Not me thankyouverymuch. I can make do on a 10th of those system specs and still be facinated by computers.

Err, the copy of Longhorn I saw ran on a pretty standard laptop, and looked like a pushed forward Version of Windows XP, but with limited driver support. I mean, windows hasn't changed much since W95, don't expect 'miracles' in the interface changing.

They are right, looking ahead though. I mean WinXP when first released only supported HDD's up to 138GB, and hence 160GB HDDs didn't work properly... technology moved faster then they expected? That shouldn't mean the 'underpowered' machines shouldn't be able to use the software though.

[Thermodyne]

That article is the same crap that has been going around for months. And you guys should know better. If MS is to see a fast return on their investment, they will need a big upgrade response after the initial released. That is were the big profits are, the OEM’s all get deep discounts on the preinstalled systems. Also, they want to maximize the potential market by being as inclusive as they can. You can bet that it will run on any low end system that is being sold by Dell right now, and probably any system that XP will run on. There might be a requirement for a 3D card, but I would expect it to run with out one. Perhaps without all of the eye candy. At the very least, it will run on any system that is still within the four year cooperate life cycle. That’s puts it on sub 2GHz systems that were being sold year before Last.

[Aiken]

Originally posted by David E. Gervais:

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Originally posted by aiken:
This monster will never occupy my computer. Too much eyecandy IMHO.

eyecandy? Have you seen screenshots or something? I have not managed to find any screenshots.

If you did manage to find screenshots could you post a link? I'm curious to see what the UI looks like.

Cheers!

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http://winsupersite.com/longhorn/
The most complete source of news and rumors about Windoze Longhorror, in the meantime.

[Solymr]

Originally posted by Markavians:
I mean, windows hasn't changed much since W95, don't expect 'miracles' in the interface changing.

I think Windows has changed rather alot from the old days of 95. XP is a much greater product then 95 was. Sure XP isn't perfect, but how do you expect it to work on 100% of system flawlessly? For that fact, how can you expect 100% perfect software? Human error always will show through, though Microsoft could probably handle it better.

Personally, the "security" features of Longhorn scare the willies out of me. Being Australian and having a government thats still trying to struggle with the concept of ADSL, I'm not sure what their stance would be in regards to Palladium (sp?). I have to agree in that its all just to keep an eye on what the Users are using and the information we're keeping. I'm guessing Microsoft might even sell such information for a price

I don't trust having someone over my shoulder watching everything I do and look at, in case I might just do something I'm not supposed to do. It's like having my girlfriend watching me chat on irc, just in case a girl tries to chat me up

[Fyron]

Another significant change in Longhorn involves device drivers. In the past, Microsoft allowed customers to use non-signed drivers, which helped compatibility, but caused stability problems. No more: In Longhorn, Users hoping to take advantage of the system's exciting new capabilities will only be able to use signed drivers.

This is extremely disturbing... so now, you won't be able to use drivers from companies that do not pay Microsoft loads of money to get the driver signed... super.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Why is microsoft allowed to do what the government can't? Or at least, has laws againt...

[David E. Gervais]

Originally posted by aiken:
http://winsupersite.com/longhorn/
The most complete source of news and rumors about Windoze Longhorror, in the meantime.

Thanks for the link, interesting look, but I shudder to think what the loading times will be. I bet the 'loading time' is the real reason they suggest a dual processor 4ghz system as a minimum requirement.

LOL, Oh well, I'll probably stick with XP for another 5 years before I upgrade..

Cheers!