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Old April 7th, 2004, 01:19 AM
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The Blood Thorn is very nice: life stealing attack with room left for a shield.
BTW, does Bloodthorn cause less damage (and therefore healing less health and fatique) than Wraith Sword? I assume it does, but I would like to confirm it.
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The Blood Thorn is very nice: life stealing attack with room left for a shield.
BTW, does Bloodthorn cause less damage (and therefore healing less health and fatique) than Wraith Sword? I assume it does, but I would like to confirm it.
For being a two handed weapon that doesn't give a bonus to blood magic, it better do more damage.

Wraith sword:
9 damage 2 attack 3 defense 3 length

Blood Thorn:
4 damage 2 attack 0 defense 0 length
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Old April 7th, 2004, 01:48 AM

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Etheral Crossbow. In a multi it's the ultimate pretender killer in the hands of a skilled marksman.
There's a MR save to avoid the damage, so it's actually no more dangerous than soul slay. It's advantage is that it's cheap to make and can be given to many commanders instead of what might be a rare astral 3 mage for your nation.
You can also choose your targets better. Of course you also have to hit, it only fires every other turn, and can't have it's MR penetration boosted.

I've never had much luck with Ethereal Crossbows, and now typically forge something else with my Astrals.
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I'm field testing a mounted hero with:

Sword of swiftness
Charcoal Shield
Rime Hauberk
Spirit Helm (the one that fires bolts)
Enchanted Trident (the one that fights around you)
OPEN slot (haven't decided yet but probably a ring of regen)

I'm gonna send her into the thick of combat and see what happens.
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Luck and antimagic talismans are also good, inexpensive uses of an empty misc slot. Depends on the expected threat and existing strengths of the unit.
Hell Sword is fun; like the Wraith Sword it's 2-HD, but in addition to life drain it gives berserk and fire resistance. Plus, for devils of the flaming variety it's more thematic, although they admittedly don't benefit much from the fire resistance bonus.
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Default Re: What are your favorite combat items to forge?

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Originally posted by Teraswaerto:
The Blood Thorn is very nice: life stealing attack with room left for a shield.
BTW, does Bloodthorn cause less damage (and therefore healing less health and fatique) than Wraith Sword? I assume it does, but I would like to confirm it.
For being a two handed weapon that doesn't give a bonus to blood magic, it better do more damage.

Wraith sword:
9 damage 2 attack 3 defense 3 length

Blood Thorn:
4 damage 2 attack 0 defense 0 length

Yes, but does it change the ammount of life/fatique you gain?

In other words - the Life Draining attack - is it just fixed additional "effect" like different "poisons" on weapons, not related to the ammount of damage you cause, or does it directly related to damage?

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It is a percentage of the damage inflicted.
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It is a percentage of the damage inflicted.
Do you know how much of the damage inflicted is chaneled into life increase and fatique reduction?
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It is a percentage of the damage inflicted.
Do you know how much of the damage inflicted is chaneled into life increase and fatique reduction?
From the "Melee Power Rankings Chart" thread.

"A life drain attack regains damage*2 fatigue and damage/2 HP. It also causes damage/2 extra fatigue on the target. Only lifeless units are immune."

Note that lifeless units are not immune to the damage caused by life drain as far as I can tell, but do not provide any fatigue or damage healing.
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Old April 8th, 2004, 05:38 AM
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It is a percentage of the damage inflicted.
Do you know how much of the damage inflicted is chaneled into life increase and fatique reduction?
From the "Melee Power Rankings Chart" thread.

Ok, thank you.
"A life drain attack regains damage*2 fatigue and damage/2 HP. It also causes damage/2 extra fatigue on the target. Only lifeless units are immune."

Note that lifeless units are not immune to the damage caused by life drain as far as I can tell, but do not provide any fatigue or damage healing.

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