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August 19th, 2004, 12:59 AM
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Re: PBW - Loosers Who Quit
Keep the language PG please.
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August 19th, 2004, 10:34 AM
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Re: PBW - Loosers Who Quit
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Just to present the other side non-quitters can be annoying also. I was in a game once were I refused to quit and the winning player cussed at me and terminated the game. I had one active minefield in a nebula system so I refused to quit as "I had units still in the field" and my empire was still alive.
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That's just being pissy. With one minefield there is 0% chance of doing anything meaningful..and worse, minefields are completely computer controlled anyway so all your holding on did was slow down the game for the other player(s).
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Sorry about that I tend toward brevety in speech and in writing. Everything I said was the truth, but the situtation was I was the Last player in the game beside the winner. The Winning player knew I was teasing and only cussed to tease me right back. And I only continued to fight becaue it was funny in an absurd way. The winning player and are a good friends.
But quitting players are a fact of life we will all have to contend with and if you want to avoid that just request Grandpa Kim's seal of approval.
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August 19th, 2004, 12:48 PM
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Re: PBW - Loosers Who Quit
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I have my own personal black list and I'm always looking to add more quitters to it.
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I wouldn't be apposed to having a like or said list posted somewhere for all to see. This 'Black List' would be a great guide to determine if one wants to play a game with someone. Might also force somepeople to correct their horrible ways. Maybe even give Ratings or something so that you really can determine how much of a loser the community views this person as....
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August 19th, 2004, 09:21 PM
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Re: PBW - Loosers Who Quit
Hmm, I didn't really mean to open a can of worms here. My own personal choice is to play on till I can do no real damage to my opponent. Then I ask the owner to "finish" my empire. I like to keep playing because I always seem to learn more in a loss than in a win, in fact, a win makes me cocky and everyone likes to whack a cocky SOB.
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I have my own personal black list and I'm always looking to add more quitters to it.
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I wouldn't be apposed to having a like or said list posted somewhere for all to see. This 'Black List' would be a great guide to determine if one wants to play a game with someone. Might also force somepeople to correct their horrible ways. Maybe even give Ratings or something so that you really can determine how much of a loser the community views this person as....
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My blacklist is not for public consumption but I may let individuals see it if they ask, and only if they vow not to pass it along.
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August 19th, 2004, 10:58 PM
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Re: PBW - Loosers Who Quit
I learned a long time ago, getting my butt kicked in chess tourneys, that the honorable thing to do was resign when the game ending was obvious. Even then, I saw people who were obviously going to lose sit there and make the opponent sit there while his clock ran down. To me, that's the SE4 equivalent of not submitting a turn and forcing everyone else to "watch your clock run down".
I know RL pops up sometimes (Nodachi and Gecko come to mind) but it's also obvious that RL wasn't the problem when you see the same guy active in another game.
I don't like quitters like that but I try to take them in stride. No point in "having a cow" as Bart would say  .
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August 20th, 2004, 02:05 PM
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Re: PBW - Loosers Who Quit
I don't have much to say except that I stopped playing PBW when I realized I was so unreliable.
I think others should reconize thier own nature and do the same.
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August 21st, 2004, 01:40 PM
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Re: PBW - Loosers Who Quit
Primative.
I am disappointed Gozra made your list as well.
Gozra is a good PBW player to have in a game.
I also have a Do-Not-Join list and another list of Players who i think are great PBW players.
As for setting this up on PBW.
That will not happen. PBW has made it a few years now without a rating system. The current system will not have this functionality added.
The new PBW system. Perhaps it can be looked at from an autogenerated point of view. But again it still does not explain everything.
I feel it is better for players to keep their own opinions of players. And if some one joins a game who you feel is not a good pbw player then inform the game admin. They can chat one on one with the player in question and decide if they wish to give the benifit of the doubt to the said player. Or inform them that they do not want them in their game. I have seen a few emails that go along the lines of " I really would like to play in this game but player ****** is known to drop out without notice. "
Then I look at who sent it and decide... Hmm... who whould be better in my game.... send off a few emails. And make a choice.
Too me that is the best system.
P.S. G-Kim is a good player,
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August 21st, 2004, 04:59 PM
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Re: PBW - Loosers Who Quit
I have seen couple of players so far I am not willing to play anymore. Reason: not submitting turns and/or breaking home rules. Also players who quit (not informing anyway) after the first loss get into my list. However, I am happy to inform that there is not many names
I also agree that you learn more when losing that when winning.
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August 22nd, 2004, 09:08 AM
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Re: PBW - Loosers Who Quit
I'm in a game, as a long-time replacement player, that is no longer fun. I have kept playing, but it's really useless. One player has a much better racial setup than everyone else and is really powerful. He could easily eliminate my empire, but instead chooses to park large fleets on the suns in my systems and let my planets riot.
There are only four empires left, and the combination of the weaker three would not be strong enough to win the fight. I'm ready to declare a winner and leave the game, but the leader seems to want a different type of ending.
What would you do in this case??
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August 22nd, 2004, 09:57 AM
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Re: PBW - Loosers Who Quit
inform the game owner and the other players. and declare that player the winner. People tend to forget that you can win a game without taking out everything around you.
If the game owner says fight it out then i would tell them to mark my empire dead so the computer can take over.
If they refuse. I would leave.
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