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[PlasmaKrab]

Jaws43 said:
Indeed it was the Leopard 2 NL. I know we got a update in 1989 or 1990.. I was Platoon commander at that time from a Recce platoon. I thought it was the Leopard 2 A4A1 (NL) The A4 must be updated between 1985 and 1987.. in that period I had no function on a Leopard 2.

Leopard2A4A1 NL?

You mean upgraded once in 1985-87 along with the first German A4 batch, then once again in 1989-90 to A4A1?

I hadn't seen this AxAy thing since, well, Leo1!

Anyway, the last Leo2NL were delivered in 1986. So, upgrading them right away between 85 and 87?

Well, since you rode the very beast I won't question you too much on that. Probably the Dutch army launched some retrofit program on the way, to prepare for the A5s which, at the time, must have been expected quite faster than how they really came, am I right?

Now to determine what was this upgrade exactly.
Maybe that ahs something to do with the 2 Leo2a4 batch I was talking about, one with TC, the other with armour?

Just wondering...

[Jaws43]

TheDesertFox said:

Jaws,

are you sure it wasn´t the 2A1 which was introduced 83 ? I´m asking because the fourth batch build by MAK and Krauss-Maffei between Dec 85 - March 78 were the first 2A4s (370 vehicles). All vehicles build before 85 were 2A1s and 2A3s and were later retrofitted to 2A4 standards.

BTW: this retrofitting programm lasted until the mid 90s when it was finally complete. I was in Castle-Martin, Wales (battle range - life firing 2A4s) in 91 and 95 were we met some dutch guys who were just making themselves comfortable with the "new" 2A4 hardware. I´m a former german Leo2 guy btw.

If you can dig deeper into this issue and find out when exactly 2A1s first appeared in the dutch army and when they were replaced by 2A4s it will really be appreciated.

Certainly this needs to be looked at.

Thanks for your informative post.

cheers

Helge

Thanks. About Leopard 2 A4 see post above