Microsoft VISTA

[Renegade 13]

Q said:
And if the system breaks down you will get the final message:

HASTA LA VISTA BABY

LMAO, good one!

Personally, I'll probably wait for quite a while before I buy Vista (if I ever do). Wait at least a year, probably more until they've found some of the major problems. Only some, because they'll never find them all.

[Strategia_In_Ultima]

El_Phil said:
I forget how many but there still a huge chunk of people on Win2K and using Office '97 because they still work. Why upgrade?

/me uses Win98SE and no Micro-horror Office at all, instead /me uses OpenOffice

[Suicide Junkie]

Go Win98!

Go DOS 5.1!

[El_Phil]

No you want DOS 6.2, DOS at it's best. Apart from the minor problem that bill had stolen the entire disk compression utility from someone else. Well everyone's got to start their lawbreaking somewhere

[Atrocities]

Screw all them there fancy *** rich man programs, I gots me windows 3.11 and I'z stand by it as the greatest OS of all time. And my 386 is the most powerful computer known to man.

(Side Note: While watching "FLED" the Boldwin boy talks briefly about his computer, I laughed so hard I about pee'd myself. "I have this sweet fully loaded 486 with a blazing fast 700 megabite hard drive." - Or something to that effect.)

[El_Phil]

You shouldn't laugh at those poor late 80s early 90s films. They're just trying to be up to date....


What as I saying? It's still damn funny and we all know it.

[Thermodyne]

I see a lot of posts here crapping on VISTA. Question would be this; How many of you have actually used it? And how many are just talking out the wrong end of their digestive tracts?

Vista does have a lot of improvements from a security point of view. I doubt they could make the same changes to XP/2K and not require a complete reinstall. And it has a lot of features for the home multimedia market. But I doubt the end product will be entirely like the 1st beta release. But you can bet that it will sell well, the vast majority of the market being preinstalled on new systems.

As to the post speaking to Win2K and Office 97, why replace something that does what you need it to do. In the cooperate world, 2K systems are just reaching end of life cycle, and being phased out. Office 97 is a dinosaur, but if all you do is word process and email, it’s fine. If you look at the fortune 500, there is still a lot of NT and 9x out their. But they are often the same networks making the news with each new worm. I have 600 plus systems on 2K and XP now, and we have almost no MS related failures. I do build custom images that the supplier installs on the new systems, but the changes are mostly related to configuration and preinstalled software. The biggest problems we still have are stupid users opening email attachments and allowing web sites to install software. If the average MS user had the same skills as the average NIX user, MS products would be seen as much more reliable. But then that is one of the main reasons why people pay for MS, it’s more stupid friendly. And the vast majority of computer users are a step below stupid. I wish some of you could sit in on our help desk calls, you would come away with a whole new outlook on the state of the average joe/jane user.

As to the complaints about the way MS does business and prices products, you guys don’t have a clue. Take a look at Autodesk or Microstation, they have some real draconian license systems. Price out some network support software for NIX. Run a help wanted ad for some NIX network staff. You will never be the same after those interviews!

Now….don’t take this personal or feel insulted. But if you are running 9x you need to spend a few bucks and buy XP. And if you have XP and good hardware, and it’s not stable, you need to buy a book-take a class-hire some skilled help-what ever it takes to get your system set up properly. If you suffer from worms, viruses or spyware, see above, and for god’s sake get a hardware firewall and lock it down. Seriously guys, I don’t have any of the problems that I see posted here with the exception of crappy IDE hard drives, and I don’t buy them any more except for laptops. I do use a hardware firewall, I do run up to date AV software, and I do apply patches ASAP. I also have all of my systems on UPS’s. I don’t visit known loader web sites,I don’t open email attachment from unkiwn senders, and only from known senders when I’m expecting them to send me something. I do scan inbound email with AV software even though live scanning slows down the system. I don’t use protos that are known to be comp’d, and I don’t use crappy hardware just because it was cheap or on sale. I run many flavors of windows, I run some NIX, and I run some FreeBSD, they all work well for me. I can’t remember the last time I had a system crash that wasn’t do to some type of stupidity on my part or a dead hard drive.

In closing let me say this; I used to do a lot of work on home user systems, I don’t do it any more unless I just can’t get out of it. I found that I was working my *** off, not making decent money and more often than not the damage was self inflicted. Usually I had to be bull****ingly polite, all the while I was wanting to say “Here’s your sign”.

[Arkcon]

When I heard months ago that the new more efficient hard drive allocation format was removed from Vista because it wouldn't be ready in time, I lost the last scrap of faith I had in Microslime. They don't want to innovate, they just want to slap a new GUI on peoples desktops every couple of years so people will be envious and want to buy it themselves. If I have to upgrade from Win-2K, I'll try Linux again.

[Thermodyne]

Arkcon said:
When I heard months ago that the new more efficient hard drive allocation format was removed from Vista because it wouldn't be ready in time, I lost the last scrap of faith I had in Microslime. They don't want to innovate, they just want to slap a new GUI on peoples desktops every couple of years so people will be envious and want to buy it themselves. If I have to upgrade from Win-2K, I'll try Linux again.

The file system is ready to test. The delay is do to legal not signing off on it. With the issuance of patents on IT ideas, it is becoming unprofitable to innovate and bring new products to market.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

...And one truely atrocious pun...