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Re: Flux capacitors, not fluxing(where can I get n
Technically, I'm with Geo on this one. Don't think you can replace these and get up and running like new. Something most likely made them pop, and then while they were on their way out they most likely [pun]"incapacitated"[/pun] other board components that were depending on their properties of capacitance.
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If you can get a replacement, go for it.
But if you're gonna be tossing it in the trash for a new one anyways, why not try?
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December 29th, 2005, 05:55 PM
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Re: Flux capacitors, not fluxing(where can I get n
Those other components should be fine... a busted capacitor does not build up any charge, so it can't send any current down the line.
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December 29th, 2005, 08:14 PM
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Re: Flux capacitors, not fluxing(where can I get n
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Technically, I'm with Geo on this one. Don't think you can replace these and get up and running like new. Something most likely made them pop, and then while they were on their way out they most likely [pun]"incapacitated"[/pun] other board components that were depending on their properties of capacitance.
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The problem is the caps themselves. They are corroded inside which causes them to bulge and short out or in some cases loose continuity. On a mother board they seldom cause additional damage unless the electrolyte gets on other components. They are easy to replace on two ply boards, but can be difficult on four and six ply boards. Most desktop boards are two ply. This is the number one RMA problem for the industry at the moment.
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December 29th, 2005, 09:13 PM
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Re: Flux capacitors, not fluxing(where can I get n
I wasn't saying that a bad cap would cause other components to go bad. I wasn't aware that there was an actual known problem with bad caps on PC motherboards. I'm still a little skeptical on that despite all the flashy websites. But if people have had success replacing them who am I to argue? Admitedly I have no experience with component level repair on computer motherboards as it was never considered cost efficent at any of the places I worked, even back when motherboards were expensive. I am quite familier with blown capacitors from my olden days working on tv's and radios. But there when a cap was blown, it wasn't because the cap went bad, it was because something else went bad and caused the cap to blow.
Those can caps are quite easy to blow actually. You will find that out if you try to replace them and put them in backwards.
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Re: Flux capacitors, not fluxing(where can I get n
Old news, but a big problem. It’s a shame, the lengths people will go to so that they can save pennies on a $100 board. Many of these companies knew they had bad caps on the shelf, and used them anyway. But for those not in the biz, here are some links, the last one has the whole low down, more or less.
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Linky 3 - If you only read one link, read this one.
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December 30th, 2005, 12:17 AM
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Re: Flux capacitors, not fluxing(where can I get n
Ok, say I did replace the whole motherboard, the proscesor is a socket a 1.2 ghz athalon with 133 fsb, pc 133 ram. Problem (at least in my head) is why bother hunting down a part that old? Correct me if im wrong but I can't seem to find any MBs that use that speed with that slot, and if I tried to put the slower proscessor in a faster board would that cause some problems(also socket a proscessors don't seem to get much faster then 1.8 ghz and fsb of like 200-400)? Perhaps I should take this opportunity to give myself a small upgrade. I've been shopping budget 754 slot MBs, and sempron proscessors, specifically this one:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...546441&CatId=0
I can fit all of my old stuff on there, I'd just have to shell out for a new stick of ram which more or less I was planning to do anyway. I can get the board separate from the proscesser(I just might have to do that) if that's not a good one but so far between newegg and tiger I like this one. That proscessor in the bundle seems adequate to run guild wars economically and most games I could get and 754 slot goes a lot farther then a socket a if I ever had to upgrade.... The only thing is this will cost about $150 after the rebate(200+ before) total, if I cold get new caps and fix the old board myself for about $20 then I'd go that route, but if I have to replace the old MB, why not take the opportunity to do the CPU and ram as well.
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December 30th, 2005, 10:26 AM
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Re: Flux capacitors, not fluxing(where can I get n
I think that is a great idea Hugh. Personally that is how I would do it. If you want to try replacing the caps first, have at it. But I personally I wouldn't take any chances by trying to reuse the old CPU or RAM in a new board. If replacing the caps does the job, then you've saved some money. If it doesn't fix the problem then you've either got some other unknown problem with the board or you messed something up in the process of replacing the caps. Either way that would make the CPU and RAM as being suspect and not worth trying to reuse as you may just end up moving your old problem to the new board, possibly even damaging it. Take it as a reason to upgrade and enjoy.
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Re: Flux capacitors, not fluxing(where can I get n
i took a peek at the links. can't rmember hearing the word tension used in descibing capacitors. Anyway i was family with the stolen formula story, and it seems some of those caps may stole be floating around, but the recent rash of bad caps a repeat or a seperate issue, given that a lot of conterfeit goods are originating from the same area, in ever increasing amounts.
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