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April 25th, 2006, 06:42 PM
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Re: Diabolic Marignon Pretender
Qm, you can't order in diabolic faith. =)
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April 25th, 2006, 06:46 PM
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Re: Diabolic Marignon Pretender
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KissBlade said:
Qm, you can't order in diabolic faith. =)
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Doh, got me, forgot he was playing DF.
That's a big part of what makes DF not so good base game. No GK, no order.
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April 25th, 2006, 09:15 PM
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Re: Diabolic Marignon Pretender
Have you tried the cb mod?
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April 26th, 2006, 12:56 AM
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Re: Diabolic Marignon Pretender
/"Have you tried the cb mod?"/
I have not. The folks I play multiplayer with are ridiculously lazy. There is no way I could ever spur them to use a mod. They've yet to bother patching yet.
Quick recap to make sure I understand this: Economy simply doesn't matter. Use flagellants instead of pricier units. Focus on magic, and skip death. Either go f9 Moloch or f9/s9 Baphomet.
I'm liking the baphomet. However, why s9? Marignon has no casters that can reveal sites to provide you with real astral income. Unless you depend on randoming a Goetic Master with s1. Aschasic Record cost too much to be used effectively with a +1 astral income. Is there some spell that whips up an astral mage, that I can't think of?
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April 26th, 2006, 01:57 AM
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Re: Diabolic Marignon Pretender
Spectres, Lamia Queens, and one each of Ice Devils and Arch Devils have Astral. Unmodded Clams are the best source of pearls. I can't believe you play without any patches or mods! The patch is *essential*; it adds and fixes tons of stuff.
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April 26th, 2006, 02:12 AM
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Re: Diabolic Marignon Pretender
"Spectres, Lamia Queens, and one each of Ice Devils and Arch Devils have Astral. Unmodded Clams are the best source of pearls. I can't believe you play without any patches or mods! The patch is *essential*; it adds and fixes tons of stuff. "
Haha, well, its silly for me to play with the patch, if all my games must be done with people w/o the patch.
However, I just began wondering what exactly I should be summoning blood wise....
Marignon has harlequins, however, they would really need to be made in mass to be useful, me thinks. There's spine devils, and plain old devils too... What should I be looking to use for armies?
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April 26th, 2006, 03:13 AM
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Re: Diabolic Marignon Pretender
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Haha, well, its silly for me to play with the patch, if all my games must be done with people w/o the patch.
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hehe, playing without any patch... ditch Mari and beat them silly with VQs until they agree to patch.
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April 26th, 2006, 07:42 AM
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Re: Diabolic Marignon Pretender
As Marignon, just make Soul Contracts and summon Arch Devils. Lifelong Protection is nice too.
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April 26th, 2006, 09:22 AM
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Re: Diabolic Marignon Pretender
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As Marignon, just make Soul Contracts and summon Arch Devils. Lifelong Protection is nice too.
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As any blood-nation, or even non-blood one, this is an obvious strategy ...
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April 26th, 2006, 01:26 PM
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Re: Diabolic Marignon Pretender
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hehe, playing without any patch... ditch Mari and beat them silly with VQs until they agree to patch.
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I'm with QM. Also, find or summon a water mage and churn out as many clams as possible, alchemizing astral pearls into water gems when possible. And spend all your blood income on Soul Contracts, forged with Dwarven Hammers. That'll learn 'em to play unpatched.
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