Nazi German OOB

[thatguy96]

Having aircraft of different services has been an issue of sorts since the days of the original Steel Panthers. Unless there's a way to set up a class for aircraft with restrictions like naval gun support, then I don't see there being any way to restrict this from happening. Just don't buy the swordfishes if you feel its unrealistic and if you get attacked by them, well, I don't know what to tell you.

[Mobhack]

I extended it to 7/44 as a few may have survived till then, same as unit 589 already was.

Cheers
Andy

[cbo]

Gud said:
Unit 588 Flammwgn B-2(f) - availabilty date should be extended to at least June '44 - this vehicle was in service of several German Ersatz tank units in Normandy.

There is a picture of a B2 Flammwagen (i.e. a Char B1-bis with a flamethrower) knocked out by British Paratroopers in Osterbek, Holland in September 1944 and according to Chamberlain & Doyle: "Encyclopedia of German tanks...", nine B2 Flammwagen were still in the inventory of Panzerkompanie 233 (Eastern Front or Balkans?) by 30. December 1944.

Claus B

[Gud]

Another one:

I am under very strong impression that SPA batteries (Wespe, Hummel) had 6 guns unlike standard battery size of 4.

Suggest making new unit - offboard SPA batteries each made up of 2 units 3 tubes each.

[blazejos]

Some link to page with pictures of captured combat vehicles in german service
http://beute.narod.ru/Beutepanzer/main.htm

[blazejos]

I sugest add in german OOB in years 1937-November 1939 Selbstschutz non regular formation would be good as german partisants during hipotetical fight in Czechoslovakia and than during September Campaigne. They were armed in typical germans weapons transfered in secret for this organisation from germany kar98k , MG34 LMG and granades. Units should be similar to Volksturm in late war. I know in german OOB is only 20 slots and is hard add new units but you think about this formations. Fights with Selbstschutz in Silesia , Bydgoszcz , Torun in all western poland was a very characteristic for many battles in 1939. This german partisants were know in poland as Fifth column that was a pharaphase of General Francisco Franco who say during spain civil war "My four columns march on Madrid but fifth is in the city"

Some links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selbstschutz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column

[Mobhack]

Such units are realy not worth the bother. Less use than the 12-odds Brandenberger elements already in there.

If you really need some sort of partisan army - rewrite the Green or Blue OOB, as these generate central Europe batlocs. Not sure about Red without reading the code - probably Balkans?.

However as the only real users would be human players, you could simply add them to the OOB as new formations of irregulars of some sort. Then maybe change a few mortar units (or add some) etc. The AI would not pick them then, leaving whichever human player was to play these to select them as required.

Blue and Green exist as middle-Europe lists, to be rewritten as required by OOB designers. They have fantasy armies in place as placeholders. Red is a more soviet-supplied partisan army template for mainly Balkan mobs.

If it is only for scenarios (which really is the only worthwhile use I can see for partisan units, they are not used in campaigns and who would bother with them in regular batle generator games, really?) - simply use any old German infantry units (if you want them to use the nazi flag), and use the scenario editor to change stats etc. The "clone all" function in the CD edition makes this easy - just edit one sample unit to what you want, then use that function to copy the new stats to all others of that unit ID.

Cheers
Andy

[blazejos]

Hey that is impresive. The origins of famous bradenburger commando unit are in 1939 in one of selbstschutz unit know as kampfgruppe Ebbinghaus. http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3623

[blazejos]

I sugest add in german OOB in years 1937-November 1939 Selbstschutz non regular formation would be good as german partisants during hipotetical fight in poland and than during September Campaigne. They were armed in typical germans weapons transfered in secret for this organisation from germany kar98k , MG34 LMG and granades. Units should be similar to Volksturm in late war. I know in german OOB is only 20 slots and is hard add new units but you think about this formations. Fights with Selbstschutz in Silesia , Bydgoszcz , Torun in all western poland was a very characteristic for many battles in 1939. This german partisants were know in poland as Fifth column that was a pharaphase of General Francisco Franco who say during spain civil war "My four columns march on Madrid but fifth is in the city "

Some links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selbstschutz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column