Mod: Hoburg Alliance SE *UPDATE*

[Jack_Trowell]

Even as a SC killer, the death attack is not so powerful : Hildegard with good equipment would be a true SC, while the starving horbug currently is useless versul even normal units (etheral is not enought if you can't equip him with anything to improve its defenses) so he can't even be useful as a thug.

Sure, you could have a fight versus a lone SC pretender and kill it in the first hit, but chances are that versus a true SC you will probably be killed first and miss your few chances to hit (remember : no item slots means no boots of quickness, no bonus to attack, no luck ...)

So I think that at least 2 misc slots could make him more useful, without being overpowered (even with 2 misc slots, Hildegard would still be more powerfull)

Or there is another change that could be thematic : make him an assassin ("hidden under the bed to eat the children").Consume soul is very powerful with an assassin, but not much that most magical weapons that would kill anyone in one or two hits anyway, with added bonus to attack and defence (and isn't consume soul negated with magic resistance ?)

[Taqwus]

"Consume Soul" (also used by the Hunter of Heroes (!)) is MR-negates.

On the other hand, "Devour Soul" (only used by the Devourer of Souls, as far as I know) is unresistable death.

[Jack_Trowell]

Taqwus said:
"Consume Soul" (also used by the Hunter of Heroes (!)) is MR-negates.

... then making the starving hobug an assassin and/or giving him some items slots (at least 2 misc slots) should be a good idea I think.

Before I forget, another thing : PD is still Ulm's (with Arbalest crossbowmen) instead of hoburgs as would be expected.

[Teraswaerto]

I had envisioned the Starving Hoburg going into battle alongside other troops, not as an SC or even a thug really. Immortality let's him die and fight again, and he has fear. He may be too weak currently though, making him an assassin is something I'm considering.

*edit* I have no idea why the PD is bugged or how to fix it.
#defunit2 273 should work but it doesn't.

[Jack_Trowell]

Teraswaerto said:
I had envisioned the Starving Hoburg going into battle alongside other troops, not as an SC or even a thug really.

Well, for what I understand it's exactly what a thug is supposed to be : a powerful unit, but not enought to take whole armies by itself.

Immortality let's him die and fight again, and he has fear. He may be too weak currently though, making him an assassin is something I'm considering.

An assassin would be very thematic for this concept I think.

*edit* I have no idea why the PD is bugged or how to fix it.
#defunit2 273 should work but it doesn't.

Ok, at least its a known bug.

[Endoperez]

* Mod command #defmult1b etc, didn't work with value 20.

This has been fixed. Unless the bug in question is actually in the #defmult2 command, that bug might be known but is unreported.

[HoneyBadger]

Kind of a silly thought, but I'm all doped up on cold medicine (I've got some kind of horrible flu that's going around), but how about a gigantic hoburg national hero?

Hamfat the Hobig

When Hamfat was just a little hoburg, he often wandered off and played in the woods close to family home. His mother forbid him, telling him that there was an evil witch who lived in a gingerbread house in the woods and just loved to roast naughty little hoburg children in her oven. Well, Hamfat loved gingerbread even more than he did playing in the woods, so he'd sneak out his bedroom window-which was very close to the ground-and continue playing in the woods after dark, until one day he discovered that his mother was right-there really WAS a witch in the woods-who found him and caught him in a burlap bag. The witch fed Hamfat magical candy and cast spell after spell on him, and Hamfat grew and grew, not just out but up as well. Eventually, two little human children she had also caught, pushed the evil witch into her own oven and baked her, but by that time, Hamfat had grown to the size of a house and continues to grow! With no way to undo the evil the witch had done to him, Hamfat now works diligently to protect the children of the Hoburg nation.
Size 6, trample, other stats relatively pathetic.

[Foodstamp]

I like Hamfat the Hobig lol. I would probably shorten the description a bit though.

[Teraswaerto]

*No longer replaces Ulm! Nation number 79 used.
*Starving Hoburg has stealth and is an assassin
*Helmets and shields fixed
*Holy level for Glory of Dreams 4 -> 3
*Some other minor changes

[Wauthan]

Thanks for the update Teraswaerto. I've missed the little fellers. Any plans about expanding the mod further or is this the "gold" version?