WinSPMBTver3.0 Info

[DRG]

RVPERTVS said:
Great News Don! Ive been waiting for that patch, some new features look interesting. Keep up that good work!

I´m curious though about the picklist updates and revisions and the opfire filtering bonus, what are those about?

Regards
Robert

Picklist changes were done for a variety of reasons. Sometimes we found the AI was buying too much of this or that and it was balanced or new formations were added for a specific time period that would enhanced the AI's picks so changes were made or just simply becasue errors were found where the AI was buying a formation that wasn't there simply becasue 23 had been entered instead of 24 or 33. We didn't document the changes, if we documented everything we did the patch wouldn't have been ready until March.

I set up a webpage to explain the bonus OPfire feature.
CLICK HERE to read about it. This will give you a general idea of what it's about.

Don

[cbreedon]

"4) Opfire filtering has been added as a bonus for players owning the CD version of the game"

Don

Does this mean the older CD's or just ones purchased after this upgrade?

[DRG]

cbreedon said:
"4) Opfire filtering has been added as a bonus for players owning the CD version of the game"

Don

Does this mean the older CD's or just ones purchased after this upgrade?

Anyone who owns a CD version of the game will have this feature initilized once the patch is installed no matter when it was bought.

Don

[Artur]

DRG said:

Picklist changes were done for a variety of reasons. Sometimes we found the AI was buying too much of this or that and it was balanced or new formations were added for a specific time period that would enhanced the AI's picks so changes were made or just simply becasue errors were found where the AI was buying a formation that wasn't there simply becasue 23 had been entered instead of 24 or 33. We didn't document the changes, if we documented everything we did the patch wouldn't have been ready until March.

I set up a webpage to explain the bonus OPfire feature.
CLICK HERE to read about it. This will give you a general idea of what it's about.

Don

I am member of the beta team and tested the OP fire filter feature extensively.
Those who remember the long debate we had over the topic earlier on I can tell this solution is much better than the solution I proposed there. And the good news is that practice showed that the feature fulfills all the good things it was expected to fulfill. A lot of gamey practices will be history very soon.

Good gaming,
Artur.

[RecruitMonty]

Hello,

I have been modifying my OOBS and I have added in some new icons for some units. I shall tell you which ones they are and I was wondering if any of you could tell me if those OOBS or SHP files have been upgraded. How they were upgraded would be a nice bit of info to have too.

here are the files:

OOB 06 - France.
OOB 12 - Russia.
OOB 12 - USA.
OOB 13 - USMC.
OOB 14 - China.
OOB 22 - Mujahadeen.
OOB 35 - Denmark. - was the ranks/names file updated?
OOB 43 - Red.
OOB 46 - Austria.
OOB 68 - Lebanon.
OOB 72 - VC

Shp:
0002
0008
0044
0052
0053
0066
0067
0068
0069
0072
0075
0076
0077
0093
0097
0099 (Addition).

Also what numbers are the new maps and scenarios?

I did a lot of map work.

I have copies of everything but I would still like to know so I know if I have to take special care when I am installing this patch.

Thanks for your help (in advance).

[DRG]

If you read this whole thread you will see I have already said "EVERY OOB has had at least some work" and that same remark was repeated by Narwan when someone else asked what OOB's had been reworked. IDK HOW to make this any clearer. "EVERY OOB has had at least some work." OK ??? So that includes every one you listed. If you want to know exactly what those changes were you'll need to compare your OOB's with the patch OOB's line by line when they are released

If you modify the OOB's and SHP files you take your chances when a patch is released. 50 SHP files have been altered and they include some of the ones you list. The scenarios now run to 178 and the maps run to 259.

ANYONE who has files maps or scenarios or whatever that they add in between our releases is best advised to back them up somewhere before installing this patch or any patch.

The simple solution that has been used by many people in the past is the first install the patch to a dummy folder and THEN review the files that have been added or changed and copy them over one by one. That's the chance you take when you modify the game on your own.

Don

[RecruitMonty]

I did read the post. I skimmed through it to be exact. I didn't see anything about the OOBS as such apart from the number ,,92", which in hindsight clearly means all of them. So I apologise for asking again. The first and last page don't contain much more on the number of OOBs though.

To what extent has OOB 35 been edited? What about the RED, USA, USMC, Mujahadeen and USSR/Russia ORBATS? Those are my core OOBS so I need to know especially since I will need to apply the patch in order to keep up to date.

That doesn't answer my second question though does it. Which SHP files have been updated out of the ones I listed.

Thanks for the scenario and map information.

[DRG]

I also said a few posts back ..."we don't write down every last little thing we do." so no, I'm not going to provide an accounting of changes made to individual OOB's. Save your old OOB's and take it from there. There's a new points calculor as well so the cost of various things have changed slightly so you're old OOB's will need to go through the new calc to put them in sync with the rest ( infantry is a bit more expensive now )

Of that list of SHP files, so far 0002 , 0068, 0075 and 0097 have been changed. That could change again be the time the patch is released. The changes are included in the "WINSPMBT_MasterIconList.txt" file included with the patch. You can go through it when the patch is released

Don

[RVPERTVS]

Thanks for the reply Don, I´ll have to take a closer look to that opfiltering option, seems interesting.

I´ve posted some time ago that I thought that in most generated battles below 4000 pints the AI was buying to much infantry that the battle didn´t look like armored warfare at all but guerrilla battles. I hope this new picklist update fixes this situation somehow.

There are some changes that I don´t see listed and were mentioned to be included in this forum like the AI apc routine implemented in winspww2 for example, under wich the apcs now tend to carry infantry to the front (something like that)And other AI´s improvements carried over from winww2 and AI improvements in general.

There´s other issues reported fixed that I don´t see in the list.

Regards
Robert

[CFeicht]

Nice.

Which OOBs were heavily scrubbed?

C.