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January 31st, 2007, 03:00 AM
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Re: OT: VISTA
I am sorry SJ, but isn't moving from ME to 98 a down grade? ME was released in 2000, 98 was released in well, 98.
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January 31st, 2007, 11:28 AM
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Re: OT: VISTA
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I am sorry SJ, but isn't moving from ME to 98 a down grade? ME was released in 2000, 98 was released in well, 98.
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Upgrade means improving something.
If the AI decided to retrofit your APB XIIs to MB Is, just because you had finally researched Energy Pulse Weapons, would YOU call that an upgrade? 
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January 31st, 2007, 07:00 PM
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Re: OT: VISTA
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I am sorry SJ, but isn't moving from ME to 98 a down grade? ME was released in 2000, 98 was released in well, 98.
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No, because ME was released as a TRAP by M$, to get people to look at XP more positively by comparison. Win 98 is massively better than ME. I think Win 2K Pro (behind a Linux firewall) is currently the best version of Windohs, because it's stable, works, and doesn't have so much annoying crap like M$ authentication, and it wastes fewer system resources. The only negative feature I'm aware of is Remote Desktop isn't as good, but if you don't use that... I say upgrade to Win 2K Pro!
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January 31st, 2007, 09:28 PM
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Re: OT: VISTA
Vista is:
1. Overpriced
2. High requirements
3. Incomplete and the initial version will be buggy.
4. Vista does have some nice features but none are that "so outstanding, I got to have right now".
Pass on Vista for quite a while. XP pro works fine.
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January 31st, 2007, 03:09 AM
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Re: OT: VISTA
If one is looking to buy a PC, I say go here and build what you want. It's reasonably priced for what you get.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/
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January 31st, 2007, 03:30 AM
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That is a cool site Kana. Thanks.
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$2229.00
(before all applicable rebates)
CASE: CoolerMaster Praetorian 730 RC-730 Aluminum Tower 420W Case (Black Color)
CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6400 CPU @ 2.13GHz 1066FSB 2x1MB L2 Cache EM64T
MOTHERBOARD: Asus P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe nForce4 SLI Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1066 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394&7.1Audio
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)1GB (2x512MB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: NEW!!! NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
LCD Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: 250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive -- Recommended
Optical Drive: (Special Price) 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: COMBO DRIVE (16X DVD-ROM & 52x32x52 CD-RW) (BLACK COLOR)
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
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January 31st, 2007, 03:37 AM
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Re: OT: VISTA
Yeah if I had to buy a custom made PC, that is where I would go, I've had some friend be very satisfied with what they recieved.
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January 31st, 2007, 03:54 AM
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Re: OT: VISTA
Its the selection, I just don't know what would be best. I mean with so many parts choices which parts are the best for my needs.
I would like to have a nice gaming platform for the next three years. So obviously a high end Geforce Card is a must, 2.1 Ghz Duo-Core process would work, and say 1 gig memory with dual 250 gig HD drives. A nice set of DVD/RW/CDRW drives would be needed, and of course very good case cooling and a 600 watt power supply.
Past that.... what is the best MB, do I need better CPU cooling? What about other extras? Should I go with SLI or stick with top of the line Geforce PCIex card?
What about sound, stick with on board or go with something else?
And then there is VISTA... professional or not... I bought Win2k Pro and XP Pro and have been happy with both. So perhaps ****A pro might be the best fit, say for the price.
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February 2nd, 2007, 07:55 PM
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Re: OT: VISTA
It's also the reason you should never upgrade to Vista, because the requirements are components with super-duper-evil copy protection features.
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January 31st, 2007, 03:58 AM
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Re: OT: VISTA
With Win2k and XP only a few years old...
XP has actually had the longest life as the top OS from MS (at least, the windows ones). It was never meant to take this long to make Vista...
Plus, Vista only costs $400 if you buy the ultimate edition. You probably don't actually need the ultimate edition, and would be fine with home premium.
Microsoft will introduce a system destabilizing bug that will cause nothing but massive problems for all XP users thus forcing them to go out and buy VISTA.
This sort of paranoia is just as bad as the WPA kill switch malarky. Did they ever do that to any win9x? No. Did they do it to Win2k? No. Will they do it to XP? No. It doesn't make any sense for them to _ever_ do such a thing.
Kana said:
Yeah if I had to buy a custom made PC, that is where I would go, I've had some friend be very satisfied with what they recieved.
Wouldn't it still be cheaper to spend an hour putting the parts together yourself?
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