Superheroes dominating Dominions 3 ?

[FrankTrollman]

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[Gandalf Parker]

Im thinking that the built in benefit for Agartha is based on caves and darkness which doesnt seem to be incorporated into the game enough yet to provide the balance.

[FrankTrollman]

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[Ygorl]

I've been relying on Bows of Botulf a lot more in Dom3 than in Dom2... Anyone with a smidge of death magic and the barest research in construction can shut down a lone spellcaster with little trouble. They're fun...

[KissBlade]

MA Argatha is weak. And people who nominate EA Ermor as a weak nation have no idea what they're talking about (read: didn't use lizards + combat pretender chassis). Mid Era Mictlan is weaker than it's EA/LA variant but I don't play Mictlan enough to make any judgment on that. Death scale is silly. Nations with no old age problems can effectively get 120 free points (or possibly even 240) advantage over nations with significant problems with old age. That is balance issue.

The game is not that complicated at it's current stage.

[Shovah32]

Deathisnt a no brainer in games that will last a long time, by turn 100 or so your capitol will be down to around 5000-6000 population so no mage recruitment without alchemising gems and if you run low on gems for some reason, no army.

[calmon]

I agree with shovah, sure it depends on game length, game rules, etc. but i normally not go with death 3 and i choose growth 3 as often as i can, even without big old age problems.
In longer games there is a real difference between a 40.000 populated home province (and all other provinces in same way) or just 20.000 on turn 50.

[KissBlade]

More often than not, by turn 100, you're swimming in pools of gold already. Furthermore by then, it is gems that determine the game not gold. If you're not, then chances are you're already behind in your empire growth compared to others (most likely because you missed out on the extra points) Also your cap does not go down to 5-6K in 100 turns even with death 3. Not to mention, I've patrolled my cap down to 5-6K with full death scales and won games easily because of the jump in early-mid game it provided me. Granted those games were duels, I still find death scales preferable simply because those points need to come from somewhere to pay for my other goodies. To say Growth gives you benefits over death isn't a good argument since that's an obvious statement. However Growth 3 over death 3 is taking out 240 points that you're not spending in OTHER areas. Your turn 50 isn't going to matter when you're in a MP game and you're wedged into a small corner because your build doesn't factor in an early game.

[calmon]

Gems are very important in late game. Nevertheless normally you can't 'swim enough' in gold. A nation with very good non-capital mages and lots of castles build 20-30 national mages a turn in late game.

Growth is clearly an middle/late game invest but there also possibilies to improve your early game too.

However what i mean to say is that death 3 is good but its not a no-brainer.
The nearly no-brainer for me is sloth 3
I would always go for sloth 3 before death 3 with most of the nations (even the resource haevy nations, just build a good combat pretender here).

[Gandalf Parker]

It also depends on if you are combining those scales with a dominion push, or if you are allowing it to affect only the capital area while trying to mostly operate outside of your dominion.