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				March 25th, 2007, 08:02 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Question for Luck Experts 
 In a recent game, I had two bad events in my capital on turn 2. Rather annoying. |  
	
		
	
	
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				March 25th, 2007, 09:50 AM
			
			
			
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  i never take any misfortune. too unpredictable. When i need points, i would rather take things i know what the effects are, like negative temperature or sloth. 
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				March 25th, 2007, 10:38 AM
			
			
			
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  I am playing 300 province map, 3 order, 3 luck. I do not get a lot random events(rare game setting), but i have got 1 hero, and several boosts of gold and gems. I only own about 10 provinces, getting an event every other turn or so. 
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				March 25th, 2007, 11:24 AM
			
			
			
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 Im running a game with misfortune 3, order 3 drain 2. seems thats not so good an idea. Getting barbarian attacks (lesser and major) almost every turn. Sometimes more than one   |  
	
		
	
	
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				March 26th, 2007, 01:42 AM
			
			
			
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 I had 4 in one turn today, playing 3 order 3 luck events common(solo game). 2 of the events occurred in the same province. All 3 provinces were mine at the start and end of my turn, and i had gorgon. 
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				March 26th, 2007, 07:44 AM
			
			
			
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  Even with rare events, I'd take misfortune 2 rather than misfortune 3.
 AFACT, The "event is bad" modifier doesn't just make events more likely to be bad - it makes events *worse*.
 
 In the controlled studies I ran, misfortune 3 was basically never worth it (vs misfortune 2), even at events rare. I would not take luck with rare events, however.
 
 There is some sort of combined effect from fortune with other beneficial scales - order 3 / fortune 3 gets fewer events than turmoil 3 / fortune 3, but the events you get are more likely to produce money? I haven't run enough tests to say conclusively, but fortune 3 / productivity 3 and fortune 3 / growth 3 both seem to get more money than they "should".
 
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				March 26th, 2007, 10:52 AM
			
			
			
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 Another thing to consider is that income from luck (as far as I know) doesn't show up on the score graphs.  Taking order vs turmoil/luck will show you as having significantly stronger income on the charts (close to a 60% swing in apparent income).  I've found in the MP games I play that this is a significant consideration because of the importance of diplomacy.  Of course, appearing too weak is even worse than appearing too strong, so when I say worth considering that's exactly what I mean. 
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				March 26th, 2007, 01:33 PM
			
			
			
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  What is this diplomacy that you speak of? There can be only one true god, and that be mine! hehe. 
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		| Xietor said: I had 4 in one turn today, playing 3 order 3 luck events common(solo game). 2 of the events occurred in the same province. All 3 provinces were mine at the start and end of my turn, and i had gorgon.
 
 |  Order scale influences the number of events you get.  So it is counterproductive to take Order and Luck at the same time.  If you were really insistent on taking luck I would say take only Luck 1.  Any more than that is a waste since Order 3 will reduce the overall number of events. |  
	
		
	
	
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 I have been testing order 3 with luck 3 lately. It yields interesting results. Turmoil 3 luck 3 used to yield a lot of unrest events for me. Choosing Order 3 Luck 3 seems to cut the total events I have received by a fraction, but the events I do receive are good more often than turmoil 3 luck 3. The only notable bad event I can think of recently in both games I am trying these scales is 2 units getting cursed. I like this scale layout, it yields great events without some of the more chaotic ones.
 I need to test it more to decide if the reduction in events really makes it worthwhile, but both games I am running yielded 3 events last turn (one was the curse event) so It seems that they cancel each other to a point of making events still fairly common.
 
 PS. I got a national hero on turn two with those scales!
 
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