Setting up an Ettin?

[Huzurdaddi]

NTJedi said:

My perfect memory must be failing... I thought it was 12.

With the new eye of the void (is that the correct name? The new penetration item) in Dom3 15 is the new 12.

[Nikolai]

Sword of Quickness, Sword of Quickness, Flambeau, Goring Helmet, Goring helmet, Jade armour, Boots of Flight,
bird of Stone.

22 attacks, and flambeau is 100+ AP against dead.

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSssmoking! (Got all Mask animes, sue me)

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

World's Fourth Stupidest Idea:
Dwarven Hammer, something, Dwarven Hammer. Empower, and enjoy the fifty percent forge bonus. Blood, perhaps? People often seem to discuss 'bootstrap'ing into that path.

World's Third Stupidest Idea:
Rune Smasher, Shadow Brand, Rune Smasher, Eye of the Void, Bone Armor, two Spirit Helmets, Boots of Quickness.
As much penetration as you can apply to Soul Vortex and Leeching Darkness (shadow brand), with a couple lightning helmets for good measure.

World's Second Stupidest Idea:
Rune Smasher, path booster, rune smasher, eye of the void, empowerment. Ettin, the mage! Singleplayer insanity only, please. For more fun, aim at Ettin eventually casting wish.

If you were willing to open up uniques, you could go with the Monty Python build.

[Szumo]

Ok guys, i appreciate the ideas so far, but:
1. Ranged build is out, i have enough Sleepers (Firbolgs) who are much better at that.
2. I can't forge any artifacts.
3. I'm not going to empower him either.
4. With 150+ HP (i have gift of health up), he might be nice, but i don't think he can go against well equipped Tartarians anyway. Nikolai's idea is interesting, but it's 3 hand slots not 4.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Wait.. you want practical? Can you get more than one, by the way?

If you're trying to take down tough enemies, the monty python build is more than worth it, though outside your restrictions, unfortunately.

You may find these a few interesting ideas - or not - again, brainstorming

With Serpent Kryss, the poison itself is AN... three death poisons will take out non-undeads. Nah... to easily countered.

Star of Heroes (armor destruction), Gloves of the Gladiator, Boots of Quickness, Horned Helmet (x2). A variation on the massive attack aimed at removing the protection on one unit, and slaying him shortly afterword. May not work on magic armor.

If you're facing undead Tartarians, you can work something out with three Herald Lances, Holy Scourge (attacks twice, two handed), or the above mentioned Flambeau.

Perhaps the Holy Scourge, Eye Shield, Boots of Giant Strength, Burning Pearl. Relatively cheap, and expendable. Might to do something with triple damage vs undead and demons.

[Nikolai]

> i don't think he can go against well equipped Tartarians anyway. Nikolai's idea is interesting, but it's 3 hand slots not 4.

One less sword of quickness. So ONLY 18 attacks. Self buffing Tartarians are dead.

SoQ - 34 damage against defense
SoQ - 34 damage against (defense - 2)
Flambeau - 114 AP damage against (defense - 4)
Horded helmed - 25 damage attack against (defense - 6)
Horned helmet - 25 damage attack against (defense - 8)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 10)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 12)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 14)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 16)
SoQ - 34 damage against (defense - 18)
SoQ - 34 damage against (defense - 20)
Flambeau - 114 AP damage against (defense - 22) <- THIS WHAT SETUP'S FOR!
Horded helmed - 25 damage attack against (defense - 24)
Horned helmet - 25 damage attack against (defense - 26)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 28)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 30)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 32)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 34)

I think many Tartarians can't survive.

Maybe is worth to use Herald Lance, not Sword of Quickness -more damage, fewer defense loss.

Maybe is even more worth using Holy Scourge - 87 damage, not AP, but more defense loss.

Herald lance - 93 damage against defense
Holy scourge - 87 damage against (defense - 2)
Holy scourge - 87 damage against (defense - 4)
Horded helmed - 25 damage attack against (defense - 6)
Horned helmet - 25 damage attack against (defense - 8)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 10)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 12)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 14)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 16)
Herald lance - 93 damage against (defense - 18)
Holy scourge - 87 damage against (defense - 20)
Holy scourge - 87 damage against (defense - 22)
Horded helmed - 25 damage attack against (defense - 24)
Horned helmet - 25 damage attack against (defense - 26)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 28)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 30)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 32)
Bird of stone - 9 damage against enemy (defense - 34)

[Juzza]

Something I think you all missed is giving him an air shield, just about anything can be taken down with enough ranged weapons, preferably for that you want a Shield of Valor, that makes him immune to all ranged attacks, almost nothing can hit him, and if they do, they have to go through the shield and the armour.

[Rytek]

If you want to thug him out to go against Tartarians you should start with:

Jade Armor
Flambeau
Boots of flying.

Then add equipment based upon what your opponent is using.

For instance, if your opponent is using a stone sword you may want to load up on magic resistance. 2 starshine helmets,lucky coin,ring of regeneration.

[Shovah32]

If you want to equip an ettin(I prefer Nataraja's for the extra hand though) to take down tough enemies then a simple:
3xDusk Dagger
2xHorned Helmet
Jade Armour
Flying Boots
Ring of the warrior
Stone Bird

Should suffice. Not quite as many attacks as some other builds but the 6 high strength dusk dagger attacks per round is deadly.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

So, how do you get Ettins? I've only seen them as mercenaries. And Natarajas? Isn't that a pretender? I mean sure, if you wish... I'm not missing another way of getting them, am I?