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January 29th, 2008, 02:44 PM
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Re: Guide to communions
the manual doesn`t say the slaves are boosted. do you know this by testing?
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January 29th, 2008, 11:33 PM
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Re: Guide to communions
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Not sure I understand exactly what you're asking, but 8 slaves who have no fire magic will get a +3 boost, resulting in a fire level of 3.
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But since the slaves never had any fire levels to begin with, wouldn't they incur a fatigue penalty without the phoenix power?
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January 30th, 2008, 12:38 AM
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Re: Guide to communions
No, the slaves gain the communion bonus for all paths, including the ones they don't have at all - solely for the purpose of calculating fatigue absorbed through the communion. So that gives them 0+3 in this case, plenty to cast phoenix power.
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January 30th, 2008, 11:28 AM
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Re: Guide to communions
OK, I've figured out what I was missing in the basic fatigue calculations: Drain.
The real calculation is:
given fatigue for the spell time (1 + .1*Drain scale) times 1/(1+(magic skill - minimum skill)) plus spell casting encumbrance.
The battle I was examining took place in Drain 2, so for Body Ethereal, 30 * 1.2 = 36 +3encumbrance = 39
or 36/2 = 18+3 encumbrance = 21.
Communion fatigue makes some more sense now:
PotS becomes 120 fatigue/8 = 15
which is 15/4 = 3.75 ~= 4 for slaves with 1S(+3)
15/5 = 3 for slaves with 2S(+3)
Which is right
The master got 6, which isn't clear. 1S+3 +encumbrance should have been 7.
Encumbrance only applies to the master, but is also reduced somehow? Which makes sense, since I'm pretty sure some of the later spells only gave 1 or 2 fatigue.
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October 21st, 2009, 03:29 PM
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Re: Guide to communions
If one of the masters is sacred and gets a bless do non-sacred slaves get the bless effect?
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October 21st, 2009, 03:32 PM
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Re: Guide to communions
No. For 2 reasons. First, they're not sacred so wouldn't get it.
Second bless isn't a caster target spell, so they wouldn't be affected by the master getting blessed even if they were sacred.
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March 3rd, 2010, 08:05 AM
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Re: Guide to communions
Hell Power boosts all paths by 2, not 1.
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March 3rd, 2010, 08:15 AM
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Re: Guide to communions
Right, but they shouldn't get the effects of Hell Power when casting it, should they? The B2 (for fatigue from the master's spells only) is from the communion.
But then I don't even understand why they only get 93-95 fatigue from Sabbath Slave. Shouldn't they get 100+enc?
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March 3rd, 2010, 08:59 AM
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Re: Guide to communions
Magic-1 scale gives 10% less fatigue?
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March 3rd, 2010, 09:03 AM
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Re: Guide to communions
Right. Missed that.
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