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April 16th, 2008, 05:21 PM
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Underwater fire? Bug or WAD?
I found that fire shield from Charkoal Shield and "small area fire" from firebrand works fine underwater. Is this a bug or WAD? Anyway Charkoal Shield is realy evil underwater chaffcleaner. I think its wrong.
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April 16th, 2008, 05:25 PM
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Re: Underwater fire?
Most fire and fire-based evocations don't work under water. There are no exceptions for weapons that deal fire damage, and that wouldn't be trivial either. I could see fire-shield being weakened under water, and removing it alltogether might also fit.
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April 16th, 2008, 05:39 PM
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Re: Underwater fire?
Probably there should be no fire shield under water at all because the spell itself cannot be cast there. So, if Charcoal Shield does provide fireshield underwater, this is definitely a bug.
And the same with Fire brand, I think.
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April 16th, 2008, 06:16 PM
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Re: Underwater fire?
UW combat sucks enough as it is, leave the items alone =)
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April 16th, 2008, 06:30 PM
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Re: Underwater fire?
Fire shield underwater is at least strange and unthematic
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April 16th, 2008, 07:41 PM
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Re: Underwater fire?
Ano - It's actually not, if you read the charcoal shield description, which is entirely heat-based and doesn't mention anything about actual flame. Besides, it's magic. The fire brand IS flame based, but again, magic. The entire purpose of the items is to be on fire, I don't find it particularly unthematic that a bit of water fails to stop them from filling their purpose (unlike a mage, who is less single-minded and more prone to fatigue). Anyhow, again, UW combat sucks.
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April 17th, 2008, 03:29 PM
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Re: Underwater fire?
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Micah said:
UW combat sucks enough as it is, leave the items alone =)
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He sums it up guys.
Try to get something added.
How about pushing for a earth spell that causes area muddy water with movement loss and fatigue.
How about a Air spell of bubble that leaves a nonamphib flopping and gasping.
How about a fire spell that causes a ball of light to which those fishies are attracted like in the real world.
Where is my summon giant/school of jelly fish? They are the real terror of the seven seas.
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April 17th, 2008, 04:07 PM
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Re: Underwater fire?
Fire does have some working effects underwater... only blood is completely canceled out by water.
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