Mexico and Venezuela

[thatguy96]

Skirmisher said:
Your last answer at the bottom there was kinda lame though, dont you think?

Why don't you just accept vietnam the way the game has it setup? Why do you bother changing it?

Your OOB's are just your perception of how they should be thats all.

Your argument is basically one that suggests a fundamental flaw with secondary history, since most secondary historians were not historically present at the events, or all of the events they describe. If we take accuracy in its purest definition, as being free of error, then yes, my work cannot be considered accurate. I would agree that most secondary historical work is colored by the perceptions of the authors.

So, with all that, how can you be sure of anything? I say the scratch built OOBs are historically accurate according to my sources, when compared to that Green OOB. That was it. I can safely say that in no way, does the Green OOB historically represent Mexico or Venezuela.

You brought up the Vietnam pack. In the cases of modified OOBs, then it is not so much my interpretation of history in this case as what I deem to be important for inclusion and representation. You'll notice that many design decisions in the stock game revolve around conscious decisions and compromises for the sake of gameplay and the size of the standard OOB, that are not necessarily historically accurate. For instance, what I did was only made possible by splitting the existing two US OOBs into five US OOBs. You'll also notice that many of additions and edits friendly to the existing OOB have been added in the last two patches to the existing US OOBs.

I would challenge you to tell me what your point is in challenging the validity of my arguments. It would seem you have no vested interest in the outcome regardless. That attitude seems to border on trolling.

[Skirmisher]

You made one good point. Decisions are made based on gameplay. Thats really what its all about.


In any case good day, and god bless.
As far as trolling, I'm making some points you just don't like them, thats all.

[thatguy96]

Skirmisher said:
As far as trolling, I'm making some points you just don't like them, thats all.

You're right, I didn't like your only "point" that what I was doing was a waste of time hehe.

[cbreedon]

thatguy96 said:
Mexico is on my "to do" list, but I have no idea when I'll get around to it. You can rest assured that when I get around to it, I will either create a new thread in the TO&E portion of the forum, or add it to this thread, or both.

I for one look forward to your Mexico OOB

[thatguy96]

cbreedon said:
I for one look forward to your Mexico OOB

I appreciate that and I also appreciate the 30 people who downloaded the Haiti OOB (or the one guy who downloaded it 30 times ...I believe its somewhere in between). I unfortunately can't tell you when I'll get around to it. I haven't started it.

I'm currently working on Sri Lanka and hoping to find some information on JVP and LTTE organization to add to it to make it possible to have it not just fight itself when you play it. The basic OOB is pretty much done. It will be for Pakistan, even though Sri Lanka was independent before that. I would use India, but I figured that some might want to play Sri Lanka/IPKF scenarios.

[PlasmaKrab]

cbreedon said:I for one look forward to your Mexico OOB

Same here!
Though on my side I'd be more directly interested in the Venezuela OOB. Paired with a similar Colombian OOB, this could be the occasion for interesting scenarios.

[jnr0104]

Didn't mean to start a war! Just thinking about sending the mississippi national guard down to kick Fatboy's *** in Venezuela.thought it might be fun. Guess to make it fair ,if someone would do an oob for the boy scouts they could go to mexico.

[thatguy96]

PlasmaKrab said:
Same here!
Though on my side I'd be more directly interested in the Venezuela OOB. Paired with a similar Colombian OOB, this could be the occasion for interesting scenarios.

Venezuela and Colombia are on my wishlist, but I've been finding it hard to locate good broad information on their organization. Doing Mexico and other central American nations (and updating El Salvador and Nicaragua) is easier since I found a copy of Julio Montes' "Mexican and Central American Armor" which deals with one of the tougher aspects to find information on.

[Shan]

Yeah, keep up the work, I'm sure a lot of people will appreciate it! Sri Lanka sounds interesting, too...

[Hellfish6]

I'd also love to see an Venezuelan OOB someday (to replace Paraguay/Uruguay or one of the Central American countries). They've been buying TONs of weapons and equipment lately. "Red" forces work for now, but I'd really like to see a dedicated Venezuelan OOB at some point.