Wishlist LA Ulm - Undead Commander - Page 2

Natpy · #1 September 26th, 2008, 11:36 AM

Ghoul Guardian is a bad choice against Hydras. They are not mindless and rout quickly.

Jazzepi · #2 September 26th, 2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Natpy

Ghoul Guardian is a bad choice against Hydras. They are not mindless and rout quickly.

They're actually a great choice against SACRED hydras as they swarm, and then fatigue, the hydras very easily. Once the hydras are fatigued they die like flies, and the undead take zero damage from the poison aura.

I also combined them with body ethereal.

Jazzepi

Dedas · #3 September 26th, 2008, 11:53 AM

Against sacred hydras they're pretty nice actually, regular hydras not so.

Sombre · #4 September 26th, 2008, 01:30 PM

Ghoul Guardians never rout quickly. They have like 20 morale.

archaeolept · #5 September 26th, 2008, 02:53 PM

they're a niche unit, but good against sacred hydras. not so good against massed priests

HoneyBadger · #6 September 26th, 2008, 08:48 PM

So fortune-telling *does* add... Well, I'd like to go on the record as saying that I wish it didn't, and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me that it should. If I've got 10 units that each have a 2% chance to nullify a bad event (1 in 50, x10), then that's still significant protection, without making the choice to take Misfortune 3 over say Misfortune 2, essentially-or atleast eventually-meaningless.

Actually, it's still just for *that* province, where the unit is located, isn't it? So maybe not so meaningless, if you're pushing your Dominion.

Still, I do wish it worked the other way.

Xietor · #7 September 26th, 2008, 09:42 PM

The reason I favor a commander like the undead general that you can buy right from the get go, is that Bane of Heresy may be what stands between you and a bless rush. While any intelligent player can find ways to lead undead troops, it would be thematic and convenient, especially for a race like LA Ulm who is far from overpowered, to have an undead general.

Sort of similar to the one that KO's Kingmaker race has. my 2 cents.

Endoperez · #8 September 27th, 2008, 03:47 AM

While I originally mentioned that it isn't necessary, I've come to rather like the idea. It could be as simple as adding #poorundeadleader to one of the mages (Second Tier, perhaps?).

Sombre · #9 September 27th, 2008, 05:44 AM

I think a good solution would simply be giving LA Ulm a Ghoul Gardian 'captain' of some sort with 40 undead ldr. One notch below the Ghoul Baron Ulrich Patrifagus.

Micah · #10 October 3rd, 2008, 01:44 PM

Yes, this:

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Originally Posted by Sombre

I think a good solution would simply be giving LA Ulm a Ghoul Gardian 'captain' of some sort with 40 undead ldr. One notch below the Ghoul Baron Ulrich Patrifagus.

It makes a whole lot more sense to me that the guardians would have a leader unit than that they'd run around following some random fortune teller that can speak to the dead (and they're not mindless or anything.) Having to bust out summons or a pretender to lead your national troops is pretty lame, and I don't think Ulm is rocking its way to any OP awards.