.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $5.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 3: The Awakening

View Poll Results: Trading commanders is an exploit?
Yes 5 10.64%
No 42 89.36%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old January 25th, 2010, 04:04 PM

Zeldor Zeldor is offline
General
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Poland
Posts: 3,414
Thanks: 26
Thanked 73 Times in 49 Posts
Zeldor is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Trading commanders, exploit or not?

Yes, I am going to make a list of things considered exploits, so game admins can just include them in their games. There were some discussion about it already and certainly Sickle farming and suiciding mages on purpose via Life after Death will surely be on the list.
__________________
谋事在人,成事在天。

LA Agartha guide
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old January 25th, 2010, 04:07 PM

chrispedersen chrispedersen is offline
BANNED USER
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 4,075
Thanks: 203
Thanked 121 Times in 91 Posts
chrispedersen is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Trading commanders, exploit or not?

lab filling
Bogarus orders (except on bogarus type, old units)
chayot RoW
chayot RoR

are exploits to my mind.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old January 25th, 2010, 04:20 PM

Sombre Sombre is offline
BANNED USER
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 5,463
Thanks: 165
Thanked 324 Times in 190 Posts
Sombre is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Trading commanders, exploit or not?

I think you mean Bogus. The clue is in the name.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old January 25th, 2010, 07:59 PM

Maerlande Maerlande is offline
BANNED USER
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 518
Thanks: 26
Thanked 55 Times in 29 Posts
Maerlande is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Trading commanders, exploit or not?

@Psycho

Yes, that's why I was talking about using it in a real fight. Rather than throwing priests at big PD to kill them off or something.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old January 25th, 2010, 08:15 PM

Sambo Sambo is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 45
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sambo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Trading commanders, exploit or not?

Beginner questions: what is Sickle Farming and Ankh suicide?
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old January 25th, 2010, 08:24 PM
DonCorazon's Avatar

DonCorazon DonCorazon is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: in a sleepy daze
Posts: 1,678
Thanks: 116
Thanked 57 Times in 33 Posts
DonCorazon is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Trading commanders, exploit or not?

hmm, not an exploit but reminds me of a wily vet trick that is discouraging to learn about halfway through the game
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old January 25th, 2010, 08:54 PM

Ink Ink is offline
BANNED USER
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 118
Thanks: 1
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Ink is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Trading commanders, exploit or not?

I'm still not sure how you can hold suiciding mages in a battle with an opponent while you have LAD up can be an exploit. Is using the Sickle in a battle with an opponent an exploit too?
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old January 25th, 2010, 09:00 PM

Zeldor Zeldor is offline
General
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Poland
Posts: 3,414
Thanks: 26
Thanked 73 Times in 49 Posts
Zeldor is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Trading commanders, exploit or not?

You suicide your mages against remotes, indie attacks, an ally, etc. And you create upkeep free mages and undead reanimators out of priests to create endless chaff.
__________________
谋事在人,成事在天。

LA Agartha guide
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old January 25th, 2010, 09:02 PM
Gandalf Parker's Avatar

Gandalf Parker Gandalf Parker is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vacaville, CA, USA
Posts: 13,736
Thanks: 341
Thanked 479 Times in 326 Posts
Gandalf Parker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Trading commanders, exploit or not?

Wouldnt that be a tactic? The response would be the same as late Ermor?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old January 25th, 2010, 09:02 PM
Baalz's Avatar

Baalz Baalz is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,435
Thanks: 57
Thanked 662 Times in 142 Posts
Baalz will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Trading commanders, exploit or not?

Meh, my views are well known on this, but how about...

Exploiting archer screens?
Exploiting switching the Armor of Virtue to somebody else after the returning has stuck?
Exploiting using a death bless on mages (including ritual spells)?
Exploiting sneak, attack, sneak, attack to avoid almost any retaliation?
Exploiting (potentially) blocking enemy movement by moving a large chaff force into them?
Exploiting moving a smallish force in on the magic phase to get your opponent to burn through gems before the main event in the movement phase?
Exploiting globals going into effect the round they go up?
Exploiting sticking cursed items on suicide commanders to get the enemy to pick them up?
Exploiting IRC all day to gain a big diplomatic advantage?
Exploiting casting spells in combat to take advantage of the deterministic order they go off in a round (reverse communions, etc.)?
Exploiting casting ritual spells to take advantage of the semi-deterministic order they go off?
Exploiting pooling gems for a mutually beneficial global? Dispels?
Deliberately trying to make the target route in an assassination?
Using vengeance of the dead to auto route targets after 50 turns?
Donating gems/items to an ally on your defeat?
Donating gems/items to the guy fighting your next target?
Using scorched earth and metagaming to get a leg up in the next game?
Exploiting autosummoned units (maenads, slaves, etc.) to make your forts practically unstormable?

I could go on. Seems like an exercise in both futility and likely to end in bad blood to try and dictate all the things that "gentlemen" are not supposed to do in war. If it doesn't break the game (and in fact everything discussed in this thread are examples of the quirks that make this game) I think it does far more harm than good to try and claim tactics available in the game are invalid.
Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Baalz For This Useful Post:
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.