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February 12th, 2010, 12:27 PM
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Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
But you didn't have 5 candles in the province where the fight took place.
It was your pretender, right? Look at the battle again. Check his dominion bonuses? Not current HP, but the others should track the actual dominion.
Assassinations and other special battles do not take place in the province the character is in. That's why you can't survive retreating. There's nowhere to retreat to. It's sort of a hack to give the fight somewhere to happen.
Never thought about it before, but I'd assume temperature and magic scales don't affect the special province either. I don't think there's any way to detect the other scales.
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February 12th, 2010, 01:03 PM
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Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
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I think special battles and assassinations take place outside of all dominion.
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Nah, I just reprodused the situation.
Horrormarked Lord of Rebirth in friendly dominion, with twiceborn cast, under Dome of Corruption got killed by Hunter of Heroes and was revived as wight (to get killed very same turn by 2 lesser horrors  ).
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Could you post your log file ? Seems to be some confusion here..
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February 12th, 2010, 01:21 PM
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Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
I had already overwritten that game, but you can make test yourself using debug mod, it would take 5 minutes.
Nevertheless: results of my test display that horror attack isn't supposed to affect on unit's revival. My Lord of Rebirth was successfully revived as a wight.
Alright, hold on, I'll make another test, but you'll still need debug mod to read turn file.
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February 12th, 2010, 01:29 PM
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Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
Here it is. Check.
damage 1003 on Lord of Rebirth, spec0x21080 ba2
Immortal/Twiceborn Lord of Rebirth perished
twiceborn resurected
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February 12th, 2010, 01:52 PM
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Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
Can you tell from the battle what the dominion is during battle?
Is it the same strength as the province?
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February 12th, 2010, 02:21 PM
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Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
All the assassination/domain stuff would have significant bearing on immortals in friendly domain. Also, is the assassination domain dependent on the type eg earth attack, ashen angel but perhaps not seeking arrow or mind hunt?
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February 12th, 2010, 03:01 PM
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Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
If the assassination domain things exists at all, it would only be for actual battles. That's the only time the target is in that fake province. Seeking arrow & Mind Hunt don't cause battles, so existing dominion would be used.
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February 12th, 2010, 05:03 PM
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Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
Isnt' this relatively easy to prove?
IF its a dom neutral place, assassinating an immortal should always result in death.
Does it?
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February 12th, 2010, 05:30 PM
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Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
Even easier. Though not quite the same.
I just checked an attack by a disease demon in one game. The attack took place in friendly dominion, since the target mage had +1 morale. The province was also cold 3 and both units had +2 encumbrance from severe cold.
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February 12th, 2010, 07:10 PM
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Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
maybe the Lord was resurrected and attacked again by the Eater of dreams, the game made confusion between the two battles so it only showed the first? that could explain the battle lasting longer than expected and the Lord taking one more hit
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