Forge Of the Ancients

[Redeyes]

The forge works great when someone else has stuff like Burden of Time, Utterdark or Astral Nexus up - people don't quite know who to gang up on first

Also: it stacks with Constructions bonus sites... Right?

[don_Pablo]

It's one of the best global if yours and one of the worst if not.
The 50% discount is cumulative with Dvarwen hammers giving 75%total.
5gem cost->1 gem
40gem cost->10 gem

[Baalz]

Its actually not hard at all to have it pay for itself the very first turn its up - particularly if it lets you forge some nice stuff you couldn't easily before. Set yourself up to forge 50 items the turn it goes up then it can make a lot of sense to cast solo if theres a good chance of somebody dispelling it rather than rallying everybody to attack you. You can always dispel it yourself or suicide the caster if that makes a difference. If you're crapping out phoenix rods, standards of the damned, as well as a couple rings of sorcery/wizardry and maybe an expensive artifact or two its not too hard to save a few hundred gems in one turn which can make it worthwhile to do a bit of contortion.

[RadioGibbon]

So can you stack all the way to 100% gem reduction if you have a unit that already has a 25% forge bonus?

[Redeyes]

Originally Posted by RadioGibbon

So can you stack all the way to 100% gem reduction if you have a unit that already has a 25% forge bonus?

Yes, but the reduction caps out at 1 gem per level required to make the item (that's at most 90% required to bring a 6 path item down to 65 from 6).

Anyway, I wrote that up thread, and a cheap experiment shows that it's still true.

[chrispedersen]

I know for a fact that I have made 5 gem items for free. I haven't checked in a couple of patches, but I would be surprised if it wasn't still true.

Forge Lord, + hammer of the forge lord, + forge of the ancients + construction site should equal FREE.

[RadioGibbon]

Where those 5 gem items trinkets? They have a level of 0 required to build so if you could get a 100% forge bonus you could build them for free and still be paying the level required to make the item in gems.

[Maerlande]

So that would be your normal situation Ironhawk?

[militarist]

Pebble skin suit, Ruby eye.. placed each of them on my Baal's and both lost forge bonus. Not funny, getting to account that they non-removable.

[Lingchih]

Originally Posted by militarist

Pebble skin suit, Ruby eye.. placed each of them on my Baal's and both lost forge bonus. Not funny, getting to account that they non-removable.

Umm, that's not where you are supposed to put them.