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Old February 4th, 2011, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Iraqi OOB error report

Here is my final post for this patch. It should fix nearly all the issues of note with helicopters and most of the aircrafts.

Formation n. 142 Strike Element and formation n. 139 SEAD Plane
Initial availability date should be changed to 1/2013

Unit n. 146 (MiG-23BM), n.149(MiG-23S), n. 158 (MiG-27D)
They could be all deleted.

These planes were never delivered to Iraq. While some MiG-27s were sent to Iraq they were flown by soviet pilots and under soviet control; in any case they were there for few months at most.

Unit n.151: Su-7BMK
1)Final availability date changed to 12/1986
2)Vision rating reduced to zero
3)EW rating reduced to 1

Unit 147: MiG-23BN
1) FC increased to 15
2) Speed lowered to 18
3) Weapon n.200 AP Cluster Bomb in slot 2 could be replaced by weapon n. 199 HE Cluster Bomb
4) Vision rating reduced to zero

Unit 154-155: Su-20
1) Visibility lowered to zero
2) Unit n.154 Su-20 should have its weapon n.186 4x 57mm S-5 in slot 2 replaced by weapon n. 8x 57mm S-5.

This would match the number of rockets actually carried (four UB-32 rocket pods seemed to be the average load).

Unit n. 152: Su-17MK-4
Weapon n. 207 Kh-23 Kerry in slot 2 replaced by weapon n. 208 Kh-29 Kedge

Unit n. 127 H-500D and n.128 MDH-530MF
1) Vision reduced to zero
2) EW reduced to zero.
3) HEAT rounds replaced by HE in slot 1 on unit n. 128 MDH-530MF

These were civilian helicopters purchased from the USA as light transports and fitted with weapons (Herstal gun pods and rocket launchers) in Iraq, for cheap anti infantry work when not used to ferry officers around. As far as it can be told no countermeasures, probably no NVG compatible instrumentation and almost certainly no integral night vision equipment.

Weapon n. 179 20mm 20M621 Pod from OOB 6 France should be used to overwrite weapon n. 247 20mm Rh202 AC, which is currently unused.

Unit 122 SA-342L
1) Availability date should be changed to 1/2011
2) Armament should be changed to the aforementioned 20mm 20M621 Pod

Some second hand gazelle have been obtained from France last year. Besides it is not clear if the Gazelle were ever armed with rocket pods during the Iran Iraq war (the combat use seems to have been standoff antitank platforms).

Unit 963: AH-1 Cobra/TOW
It should be deleted.

There are no plans to purchase any; according to the rumor mill some were actually offered but were rejected as too old (understandable, since the Comanche was canned there are not many Cobra in good conditions that can be spared)

To be added instead: EC-635
Take unit n. 126 BO-105 PAH 1 and create a clone of it.
1)Rename it EC-635
2)Change vision to 40
3) Change FC to 10 and Range Finder to 22
4) Change armament to
a)Weapon n 173 12.7mm MG in slot 1 with 20 rounds
b)Weapon n. 213 2x Hydra 70 in slot 2 with 11 rounds
5) Availability dates 1/2011-12/2020


Unit 115 Mi-8T and 116 Mi-17C
Vision should be reduced to zero

Unit 118 Mi-8E/F
1) Vision should be reduced to zero
2) The number of HE rounds in slots 3-4 should be increased to 24 while AP to 8.

That would match a combat load of four UB-32 rocket pods.


The basic, cold war era, Mi-8 does not appear to have any night capability, highlighted by the fact that something as basic such as making the cockpit instrumentation NVGs compatible is listed in various upgrade proposal. Even the Hind had only a modest LLTV set and actual night combat operations in Afghanistan were undertaken with special training and flares.
That applies to soviet fixed wings too, only very few types and subtypes had some type of night vision capabilitiy.

Sources:
http://iraqiairforce.blogspot.com
http://home.comcast.net/~djyae/site/?/blog/
Acig.org
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