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Old February 20th, 2013, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: Why do you play dominions?

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It's not our respect you need, it's your own. Man the **** up.
Man up and gank someone 3 on 1. LOL
What i mean is stop pretending to be some kind of victim.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 01:40 PM

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It's not our respect you need, it's your own. Man the **** up.
Man up and gank someone 3 on 1. LOL
That's what SHE said
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Old February 20th, 2013, 03:31 PM

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The prevailing opinion was, play to win. and only play to win.
The question was not asked that way. You are inferring an answer to this question from a different question.
And to come back to the other forum question, your point was about ganking. Why gang? To win. If you expect people to do their utmost to win, they won't avoid it.

If I play SP, I clearly don't play to win the game. Never.
If I play MP, then I can play to win or to roleplay depending on the game. In both cases, the goal (roleplay or victory) is not what matters. What matters is how you get there. However, it's important in a MP game that people share the same goals. If you play an MP game to try that new "rush-my-neighbour-with-markatas" strategy, then you will likely have fun and lose. However, your targetted victim will likely not have fun and lose. Whereas if you both played to win, you'd share the same goals, and your neighbour would know what he can expect of you.
If you don't play for the same reason as other people in a MP game, you're simply running the risk of ruining the game for some of the participants.

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is winning the only thing?
No, but in a game with no other factors defined early on, then it is the only goal you can expect from other players. The important thing is to know what everyone is after. In a competitive game on a forum dedicated to dedicated games, that's what you can expect.
Playing against other players who try to win mean you have to play better. It is fun to find ways of beating someone and also to lose to someone who managed better tricks/tactics/strategies.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:13 AM

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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:15 AM

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Seriouspost since you've run away from those meanies at dom3 mods: Playing optimally and crushing your enemies is fun. Losing is not fun. There is no dichotomy between 'fun' and 'playing to win'.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 08:31 AM

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Default Re: Why do you play dominions?

i did not say there was. again, twisting the post to make it self defeating.

i said, is it the only thing-is there only one 'right' way to play.

wow. a lot of resistance to a very simple(and quite frankly harmless) idea
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Old February 20th, 2013, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: Why do you play dominions?

The answer depends on your objective for the game, because Dominions is by its nature a competitive game where there can ultimately be only one. If you want to win, you need to use all the effective means at your disposal, at which point ganging up on others becomes a requirement, as explained to you in detail.

If you don't care about winning, you can skip that and play any way you like and see how far you get. For this reason, single player is better for sandbox games where you can try whatever strategies you like. Of course, the AI will never be as rewarding an opponent as a human player.
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Default Re: Why do you play dominions?

I'm known on another forum by a different handle. I used this handle here instead of the other one because I didn't want my enemies to know I was asking for advice/help. So, I guess winning means something.

That said if you play 8 person games. You're doing pretty well if you win two or three of those, which means you'll lose a lot. And when you play against folks who are just plain better than you are ...well, you will lose even more. That's tough when a pbem game can take 3-4 months or longer.

Just about everywhere players limit some behaviors as nuisance behaviors. I shouldn't send you slave collars or a bunch of slave collars to fill up your inventory. I shouldn't attack with scouts set to run away in order to try and slow down your main army. And of course the big no-no no metagaming. So, it isn't always just about the winning, but about the experience.

FWIW I do still enjoy solo games. By playing with the number of nations, semirand and the noindy modes I can create challenge situations.

I found when I was starting out that I often had other goals than winning simply because everybody else in the field knew more about the game than I did. Lasting to turn 24. Executing a Rush even if I knew it was going to end badly as everybody else ganged up on me. Lasting to the end of the game in a 7 players take 4 capitols game. Those are specific mini-goals that make sense for somebody who is learning. Of course, if you are can last to the end of the game....You need to work on developing end game strategies that will put you over the top.
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Default Re: Why do you play dominions?

fanto, im all done over in invision and never even checked in after my last post. i can imagine it's been lots of fun since then, but i think i'll skip it.

that said, your post here is a bit mind boggling in its presumption, self servingness and innaccuracy.

i want your respect? no, i really don't. i don't know you. your respect may be something very valuable, and worth earning. then again, you may traffik under aged sex slaves. either way, your respect isn't something im after.

and to infer i have no self respect due to the fact that i have a different viewpoint on a computer game than you do is a little bizarre.

im not trying to be antagonistic here, but that post was a doozy.
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Default Re: Why do you play dominions?

It was honestly not meant as an insult.

What I mean is that you have actively portrayed yourself first as a bad player and then as a victim of abuse.

Both these stances are self degrading, and I think that is unhealthy for you and frustrating for everyone else.

You might have different intentions, but that's how it looks.
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