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August 23rd, 2020, 02:15 AM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
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Maybe I need to get to work creating some scenarios myself!
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I would LOVE to see Ogaden War scenarios!
I did, quite recently, play through a generated campaign with Cuba (Somalia and Mujahideen as opponents),
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September 1st, 2020, 09:27 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
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Maybe I need to get to work creating some scenarios myself!
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I would LOVE to see Ogaden War scenarios!
I did, quite recently, play through a generated campaign with Cuba (Somalia and Mujahideen as opponents),
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There are a couple of good books about the Somalia-Ethiopia conflict(s), by either Ethiopian or Somali scholars, I forget which. One of them provides rather good information on Cuban involvement. I will have to dig around and see if I can recall the names of those books.
When researching African conflicts I tend to rely on sources produced by African scholars. With a very few exceptions.
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August 23rd, 2020, 06:04 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
Went all the way to 2013 on the OOB list can not find an alternate red OOB.
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August 23rd, 2020, 06:09 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
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Went all the way to 2013 on the OOB list can not find an alternate red OOB.
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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...0&d=1472686962
Here's one from 2016. I'll have to update when I have the time.
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August 23rd, 2020, 07:16 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
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If all it is is red it should be ok for South African in the 70's and 80's I don't general use red much
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August 28th, 2020, 08:50 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
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If all it is is red it should be ok for South African in the 70's and 80's I don't general use red much
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Do you mean playing as South Africa, or playing as guerillas operating against South Africa? I have no desire to play as South Africa or Rhodesia in the 1970s.
I have played around with creating a battle between African forces by using the "captured" mechanism. A big thank you to the person who suggested this. It makes this great game even more flexible.
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September 1st, 2020, 09:38 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
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If all it is is red it should be ok for South African in the 70's and 80's I don't general use red much
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Do you mean playing as South Africa, or playing as guerillas operating against South Africa? I have no desire to play as South Africa or Rhodesia in the 1970s.
I have played around with creating a battle between African forces by using the "captured" mechanism. A big thank you to the person who suggested this. It makes this great game even more flexible.
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Yes I want to play Rhodesia or South Africa in the 70's. How is that any different from playing Germany or Japan in WW2? Rhodesia is an interesting side to play, their forces are generally weak and poorly equipped. They make up for that with good moral and experience.
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August 29th, 2020, 12:07 AM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
When doing Rhodesia battles in the 1970s increase the points by causing casualties and decrease the victory hex points. Missions were (for the guerrillas, destroying bridges, mining roads and killing farmers and government troops) and (for the government troops, clearing roads, protecting farmers, saving bridges and killing guerrillas.)
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September 2nd, 2020, 01:42 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
Looking at a 1974 test buy on 3500 points, then the Moxambiqans bought a whole 12 T34-85 in amongst a sea of grunts, with a few ZSU-57-2 as well.
If that is too much armourfor you, then back up a copy of the OOB and replace the SPAAA platoon and tank platoon with say a rifle platoon each?
(The Rhodesian infantry had 3 energa AT rifle grenades each team, they have 106mm jeeps, the maps are close country and so it should not be too difficult to deal with the old WW2 surplus tanks, IMHO. Especially 78 onwards when you have RPG-7s availabe)
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September 2nd, 2020, 05:37 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
If you don't follow advice given & use Red it will play very differently South Africa is one of the most experienced sides in Africa Red has poor experience.
If you want a none tank opponent for Rhodesia with experience around 70 like SA go for.
Ethiopia or Eretria they are always fighting & have few or no tanks if I remember correctly in the 70s or the UN.
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